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I mean the DRCnet weekly newsletter has this section:

MEXICO DRUG WAR UPDATE
Mexico Drug War Update | StoptheDrugWar.org
by Bernd Debusmann Jr.
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This one is so easy. Let the prisoners out. That is how you keep drugs out of the prison. Don't ya love it when someone cuts right through the BS and solves the problem? Guess thats why I make the big bucks.
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Hummm that would solve drugs in prisons but allow for more dealers on the streets..
Any thoughts on that Mikeyy? Maybe I shouldn't ask.
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Hummm that would solve drugs in prisons but allow for more dealers on the streets..
Any thoughts on that Mikeyy? Maybe I shouldn't ask.
My take is people will do what they want to. Lincoln said that if you make what men do illegal you only create criminals. It doesn't matter where you go on the globe people find a way to get high. Wether it is licking frogs or eating bark. It is a human thing to do. Jesus made the water into wine, Not grape juice. So it is my opinion that you manage drug use. You don't stop it. How does that work for ya?
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My take is people will do what they want to. Lincoln said that if you make what men do illegal you only create criminals. It doesn't matter where you go on the globe people find a way to get high. Wether it is licking frogs or eating bark. It is a human thing to do. Jesus made the water into wine, Not grape juice. So it is my opinion that you manage drug use. You don't stop it. How does that work for ya?
I can live with that. Yet again we were talking about letting all in jails/prisons out of them.

And I asked, "Hummm that would solve drugs in prisons but allow for more dealers on the streets..
Any thoughts on that Mikeyy? Maybe I shouldn't ask."

And sense these cartels are moving much more than pot now days as I pointed out else wheres.
This might become a major problem for many of our cities, towns as a heroin addict won't hold a job for long.
And some who use coke as pot becomes to hard to locate unless one is willing to deal with gangs on corners, some of them will join the same ranks as they lose control over the drug.

These are proven facts. And we are talkings about a thought you had in an earlier post. Which I was trying to point out this.

Not that your answer isn't true or lacks facts. But it didn't address my question

So they becomes a criminal in short order.
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Xolo your readership is growing. 6,675.

I just found this news story so I will place it in your thread, if you don't mind.

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Huge pot bust in Northern Calif national forest

AP – 18 hrs ago, 29 July 2011


UKIAH, Calif. (AP) — Law enforcement officials said Friday they struck a major blow against illegal marijuana cultivation on public lands in the heart of Northern California pot country.

The two-week operation to purge the Mendocino National Forest of illicit pot gardens uprooted 460,000 pot plants and led to more than 100 arrests, U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag said.

About 1,500 pounds of processed marijuana, 27 guns and 11 vehicles were also seized.

The 900,000-acre forest — larger than Rhode Island — spans six counties in a region of mountains and forests known as the Emerald Triangle for its high concentration of pot farms. Agents raided more than 50 gardens teeming with trash, irrigation pipes and chemicals that damage forestland and waterways, authorities said.

The above and plain average people using these National Parks are in danger if they enter any area these grower use.
And if eastern states like KT. to N.C. would do the same they would find plenty more of these operations.


"The Mendocino National Forest is under attack by drug traffickers," Haag said.

The operation was part of an annual summer effort to eradicate marijuana from public lands across the state. Six sheriff's departments, the state anti-narcotics bureau and at least a half-dozen federal agencies took part in the effort in the forest.

Spearheading the raids was Mendocino County Sheriff Tom Allman, who in his years on the job has had to balance county medical marijuana ordinances with state law and the complete federal ban on the drug. Allman said none of the gardens busted showed any sign of being used to grow medical marijuana.

Each summer for the past several years, authorities report seizing millions of pot plants from local, state and national parks, forests and other wilderness areas. Public lands are often favored by clandestine growers for their remote locations and rugged terrain.

In previous years, officials have blamed Mexican drug cartels for some of the state's largest growing operations. Haag declined Friday to comment on where those arrested in the current operation were from but said 25 are already facing federal charges.

The decision to focus on Mendocino National Forest this year stemmed from citizen complaints a year ago about an increasing number of confrontations with armed guards protecting pot grows, Allman said.

Forest Service officials and county leaders have also long complained about the environmental consequences of illegal marijuana farms on forest ecology.

California National Guard troops, Forest Service workers and volunteers have removed 46,000 pounds of trash, 120 propane tanks, 116,000 feet of pipe, 13 manmade dams, 57 pounds of pesticide and tons of fertilizer from raided grow sites in the forest, Haag said.
Huge pot bust in Northern Calif national forest - Yahoo! News

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It great to have other stuff added here. Thanks all!
While looking at these airplanes news I just posted I saw another news story on drugs, now to find it.

This is it. I am happy to add to your thread Xolo.

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Honduras recovers 7.3 tons more cocaine from sub

AP – 14 hrs ago

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) — Honduras authorities say they have recovered 7.3 tons (6.6 metric tons) of cocaine from a semi-submersible craft seized off the country's Caribbean coast.

Presidential guard chief Col. Rene Osorio says officials had earlier recovered 2.7 tons (2.5 metric tons). They have been unloading the drugs since Wednesday.

The submarine-like fiberglass craft is floating about 15 meters (50 feet) under the surface because the crew tried to sink it.

A U.S. Coast Guard patrol detected the vessel Wednesday off the coast of the sparsely populated province of Gracias a Dios, near the Nicaraguan border. Five crew members were detained.

So far authorities in Honduras have seized 13.8 tons (12.6 metric tons) of cocaine totaling some $500 million.
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My take is people will do what they want to. Lincoln said that if you make what men do illegal you only create criminals. It doesn't matter where you go on the globe people find a way to get high. Wether it is licking frogs or eating bark. It is a human thing to do. Jesus made the water into wine, Not grape juice. So it is my opinion that you manage drug use. You don't stop it. How does that work for ya?
Yes, Mike.
We have to make it all legal and deal with problem use. We have to deal with problem use, anyway and we have effective ways to do so. Let's just take it all out of prison. The people in there for drug offenses alone are only criminals because stupid laws made them so.
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Xolo your readership is growing. 6,675.
Not bad. I keep track. It averages 100--250 views a week, so I know others are also tracking this subject!!!!
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