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Old 06-25-2010, 03:34 AM
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Palin instead chose to follow the advice of another attorney who recommended against seeking input from Palin's ethics supervisor, the attorney general, and instead to simply contest the "inevitable" ethics complaint when it came, Petumenos wrote.'Palin to refund most defense fund money: Former Gov. Sarah Palin | adn.com
She took the advise of lawyers who had previous experience setting up Legal Defence Funds, and had even set one up for the Clintons.

Van Flein advised her to check with the Department of law. She checked with the Attorney general. The Attorney General heads the department of law in Alaska.

http://www.law.state.ak.us/pdf/jobs/...w09_screen.pdf

There's no guarantee anything would have changed if she had checked with the Attorney General's underlings.

Petumenos was relying on a report made by a known Obama legal team for his legal wisdom. Who knows if he and they are even right on their legal conjecture concerning the use of the word Official. It's not like this was decided in a court of law. The lawyers who make a business of setting up legal defense funds for people from the Clintons to Newt Gingrich think he's wrong.

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We shall see. The AP did their spin tonight. Tomorrow it's Fox's turn.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:39 AM
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She took the advise of lawyers who had previous experience setting up Legal Defence Funds, and had even set one up for the Clintons.

Van Flein advised her to check with the Department of law. She checked with the Attorney general. The Attorney General heads the department of law in Alaska.

http://www.law.state.ak.us/pdf/jobs/...w09_screen.pdf

There's no guarantee anything would have changed if she had checked with the Attorney General's underlings.

Petumenos was relying on a report made by a known Obama legal team for his legal wisdom. Who knows if he and they are even right on their legal conjecture concerning the use of the word Official. It's not like this was decided in a court of law. The lawyers who make a business of setting up legal defense funds for people from the Clintons to Newt Gingrich think he's wrong.



We shall see. The AP did their spin tonight. Tomorrow it's Fox's turn.
She had ethics violations. If she didn't try to be Penelope Pure heart it wouldn't smack so much would it?
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She had ethics violations.
What ethics violations?

She beat the Troopergate ethics investigation, done by this same investigator, Petumenos (yes the investigation that required lawyers was an ethics claim). The many others were proven to be equally fictitious. Under this last one, this was the conclusion.

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Though the two reasons why the Trust violates the Ethics Act are important, they are not so obvious as to impute knowledge to Governor Palin especially as her attorneys did not advise her of the ethics problems Therefore, the evidence supports Governor Palin's contention that any violation of the Ethics Act was not a knowing violation.
And why is this one supposed to be such a big deal, anyway? She's beat over 2 dozen of these legal fantasies. Has your lame scream media told you about any of them? Other than Troopergate, name one.

If she hadn't had to create a legal defense fund (just as the Clintons, Kerry, and others have) to defend against those other bogus claims this last one wouldn't even exist.

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What ethics violations?
...the Alaska Fund Trust inappropriately used the word "official" on its website to describe it, wrongly implying Palin's endorsement as governor.
Thursday's findings are an outgrowth from a preliminary, confidential report by another board investigator that also implicated Palin.
Palin agreed to reimburse the state about $8,000 for costs associated with nine trips taken by her children.

The above are ethics violations. Maybe they seem tawdry examples. But a lie's a lie.
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...the Alaska Fund Trust inappropriately used the word "official" on its website to describe it, wrongly implying Palin's endorsement as governor.
But she didn't set up the fund. Others did it for her. They claimed they used the word official "in order to distinguish it from others created on Palin's behalf that might not follow the law."

She authorized it on the condition everything could be shown to be on the up and up. The investigator exonerated her of personal blame by saying "the evidence supports Governor Palin's contention that any violation of the Ethics Act was not a knowing violation".

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"Thursday's findings are an outgrowth from a preliminary, confidential report by another board investigator that also implicated Palin."
It was confidential, but had been illegally leaked. The lawyers doing it had been dropped when it was discovered they had links to Obama. The current investigator used the report anyway.

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Palin agreed to reimburse the state about $8,000 for costs associated with nine trips taken by her children.
Again what ethics violation? Yeah, I see the MSM is adding that story tid-bit from last year to this story today for effect, but here's what they're not telling you.

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An ethics complaint had alleged Palin abused her power by charging the state when her children traveled with her. The Alaska Personnel Board found no wrongdoing, but Palin agreed to reimburse the state for trips found to be of questionable state interest.
Palin Reimburses Alaska $8,000 For 19 Family Trips

But hey, if you want to insist that sort of thing is an ethics violation, let's get this dirty-deed-doer under control...

Pelosi's Children and Grandchildren Used Military Jets As Cross-Country Shuttle Service

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Palin's friends and supporters created the Alaska Fund Trust in April 2009, limiting donations to $150 per person. The ethics complaint was filed soon after by Eagle River resident Kim Chatman, who alleged Palin was misusing her official position and accepting improper gifts.Ethics probe: Palin legal defense fund was illegal - Yahoo! News

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Palin's friends and supporters created the Alaska Fund Trust in April 2009, limiting donations to $150 per person. The ethics complaint was filed soon after by Eagle River resident Kim Chatman, who alleged Palin was misusing her official position and accepting improper gifts.Ethics probe: Palin legal defense fund was illegal - Yahoo! News

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You just can't stop hating, can you?? She had ONE FRIGGIN' WORD on her website that a judge found to be out of line, yet you'll have her strung up for it. She did the right thing and returned the money when she didn't have to and all you can do is try to use to demonize her even more. I'm absolutely POSITIVE that you'll be accusing her of fraud because of this, even though she acted in good faith and on the advice of her lawyers. So a judge decided that somethign she did wasn't 100% kosher, she still did the right thing in response to it.
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