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A federal judge rejected a multimillion dollar settlement for people sickened by ash and dust from the World Trade Center, saying the deal to compensate 10,000 police officers, firefighters and other laborers didn't contain enough money.
So, who is supposed to pay this multimillion dollar settlement, whatever it may end up being?
Will it be the people that caused the travesty?
I think not.

I have the utmost respect and admiration for our people in service (police and firefighters) that did all they could in response to this horrid act.
Yet, I think that is part of the job they signed on for. Why is it now the tax payers responsibility to compensate them for something that somebody else did? Compensate them for something above and beyond the agreement they took on when they accepted the job? I didn't cause the problem, why should I pay for it?
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1) 575million divided over 10,000 people is $57,500.
And after lawyer fees, we're talking less than $38,300.
Let's put that in perspective, for what that is worth.

2) This is about injuries sustained on the job. BECAUSE OF the job.
To pretend it is just part of the job?
If a cop were shot on the job, his health care bills should be taken care.
I think the healthcare bills, for what results later in life based on breathing in all that crud, should be taken care of.

3) "I didn't cause the problem, why should I pay for it?"
Perhaps the cops should start taking the same attitude...

4) I don't know if they deserve a large cash payout, as opposed to I think they should have their medical bills taken care of.

Now I don't know how such medical expenses work.
If a cop were to retire tomorrow, does he get medical?
If a cop were to leave the force after having been involved in the 9/11 clean-up, his later medical bills (if incurred) would probably not be covered.
I don't see this as entirely frivolous. Something should be done to respect the future health harm.
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1) 575million divided over 10,000 people is $57,500.
And after lawyer fees, we're talking less than $38,300.
Let's put that in perspective, for what that is worth.

2) This is about injuries sustained on the job. BECAUSE OF the job.
To pretend it is just part of the job?
If a cop were shot on the job, his health care bills should be taken care.
I think the healthcare bills, for what results later in life based on breathing in all that crud, should be taken care of.

3) "I didn't cause the problem, why should I pay for it?"
Perhaps the cops should start taking the same attitude...

4) I don't know if they deserve a large cash payout, as opposed to I think they should have their medical bills taken care of.

Now I don't know how such medical expenses work.
If a cop were to retire tomorrow, does he get medical?
If a cop were to leave the force after having been involved in the 9/11 clean-up, his later medical bills (if incurred) would probably not be covered.
I don't see this as entirely frivolous. Something should be done to respect the future health harm.
Are you of the opinion that anybody harmed from a terrorist act should be able to sue the tax payer (government) for damages?
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Are you of the opinion that anybody harmed from a terrorist act should be able to sue the tax payer (government) for damages?
No.
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No.
Why is this case an exception for you?
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Why is this case an exception for you?
This case is not an exception for me.
This case is not about just "anybody harmed from a terrorist act" being given government money.

If you want help in figuring out what it is really about, let me know.
The article explained it quite well if you want to know what this is really about...
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So please explain to me, in what circumstances you feel the tax payer (government) should be sued and held liable for the acts of another.
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So please explain to me, in what circumstances you feel the tax payer (government) should be sued and held liable for the acts of another.
You fail to recognize what is going on here.
It is NOT "held liable for the acts of another" that is the issue.

The government, when it employs firefighters and police and workers, should pay for work-related illnesses incurred on the job.

If you want to persist barking up the wrong tree, then I won't stop you.
But, I will point out you ARE barking up the wrong tree...
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You fail to recognize what is going on here.
It is NOT "held liable for the acts of another" that is the issue.

The government, when it employs firefighters and police and workers, should pay for work-related illnesses incurred on the job.

If you want to persist barking up the wrong tree, then I won't stop you.
But, I will point out you ARE barking up the wrong tree...
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Money for the settlement would be funded with nearly $1 billion in federal taxpayer money that has already been appropriated.
Firefighters and police are not federal employees.
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Money for the settlement would be funded with nearly $1 billion in federal taxpayer money that has already been appropriated.
Firefighters and police are not federal employees.
Nobody said they were...
Look at the amount of the settlement that has been rejected because it was argued to be too small.
A pretty large chunk of change for a state to fork over...

Moreover, look at the part I hi-lighted...
"has already been appropriated".
Although the article doesn't specify, that money was probably "already appropriated" as part of federal assistance for federal disaster aid.
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