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Old 04-08-2019, 11:07 PM
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"Hey!...Let's have stuff like this, from the UK, right here!" yells the Left...

Thousands in Britain left to go blind due to eye surgery rationing: Report

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Thousands of elderly people in Britain are left to go blind because of rationing of eye surgery in the National Health Service (NHS), a report revealed on Saturday (April 6).

The Times newspaper said a survey by the Royal College of Ophthalmologists (RCO) found tens of thousands of elderly people are left struggling to see because of an NHS cost-cutting drive that relies on them dying before they can qualify for cataract surgery.

The survey has found that the NHS has ignored instructions to end cataract treatment rationing in defiance of official guidance two years ago.

The RCO said its survey has found 62 per cent of eye units retain policies that require people's vision to have deteriorated below a certain point before surgery is funded.

With more than 400,000 cataract operations carried out each year, the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) concluded that there was no justification for policies that denied patients cataract removal surgery until they could barely see.

The RCO said that refusal to fund surgery was insulting and called into question the entire system through which the NHS approves treatments.
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Right here in the USoA, my mother in law was refused surgery for a pinched nerve (caused by a fall) that went from her right shoulder to her hand, and down her side and affect her right foot, under California's Kaiser Permanente (California's State Employee Health Plan). She dealt with it for the last 5 years of her life, unable to write, clumsily feed herself, and needed assistance dressing.

Judgement was made since she was starting to slide into dementia, the surgery was would not have provided a worthwhile improvement in quality of life.

And that's here. Imagine what something like NHS here would be like, for those at the mercy of insurance companies.
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My story is a good one. Under capitalistic USA medical care I received cataract surgery in both eyes within 30 days of diagnosis. I started having issues in September. Medical Diagnosis in October. Right eye was done in November and the left in December.

As I understand it in Britain, I would have to go blind in both to get one eye done.
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I hate to play devils advocate but how many of those 400,000 people would have not gotten the surgery if they had a health care system like ours? I know in the US most the people who tend to use Indian health care, VA health care and other government funded health care if they can't afford private insurance or can't pay for medical expenses out of their own pocket.
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I hate to play devils advocate but how many of those 400,000 people would have not gotten the surgery if they had a health care system like ours? I know in the US most the people who tend to use Indian health care, VA health care and other government funded health care if they can't afford private insurance or can't pay for medical expenses out of their own pocket.
A significant number of people in the USA have health insurance, either privately or with their employer. And some of us are self insured, paying as we go. Not because we are rich but because we are generally healthy.

My cataract surgery was my first paid for by Medicare. Up until then my wife and I had employer insurance, Catastrophic only insurance, or our own self insurance. There we negotiated payments for surgeries and doctor visits. If Medicare wasn't there and paid for ( by me working and paying taxes), I would have negotiated fee and payment with the surgeon and hospital.

To answer your question, most if not all, of those 400,000 people would now be able to see. Even at discounted fees, that represents a lot of revenue. Think about Laser surgery. It went from very expensive,$10,000 per eye to $600 bucks an eye. Most insurance would not cover it. No gubmit subsidies. No mandates. How did that happen?

We need to return to a nation of self sufficient citizens responsible for the decisions made in having their own lives. However, our schools and our media keep telling us we should be dependent on the government so everyone can share the same mundane life of the un-motivated. Access to healthcare in America is already universal. By law. Access to Health Insurance is not. But Washington swamp creatures are working on it, relentlessly.
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