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Israel launches Christmas Day airstrikes on Damascus as Turkey masses tanks on the border following Trump's announcement that US troop will withdraw from Syria


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Israeli war planes attacked with missiles unspecified targets near Damascus, the Syrian capital, on Tuesday and injured three Syrian soldiers, Syrian state media quoted a military source as saying.

'Our air defences confronted hostile missiles launched by Israeli war planes from above the Lebanese territories and downed most of them before reaching their targets,' the military source said.

An arms depot was hit and three soldiers were injured due to the attack, the source added.

The nature of the Israeli missiles targets was unclear.

Syrian state media reported earlier in the evening downing several 'hostile targets' near Damascus.

An Israeli military spokeswoman declined to comment on the reports.

'An IDF aerial defense system activated in response to an anti-aircraft missile launched from Syria,' the official Israeli army Twitter account later said.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a U.K.-based war monitor, said Israeli missiles were launched from above the Lebanese territories and targeted western and southwestern Damascus rural areas.

'A number of missiles hit arms depots for Hezbollah or Iranian forces,' the observatory said. No casualties or losses were reported.

Lebanese state-run National News Agency said Israeli war planes performed mock raids above southern Lebanon.

During the more than seven-year conflict in neighbouring Syria, Israel has grown deeply alarmed by the expanding clout of its arch enemy Iran - a key ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Israel´s air force has struck scores of targets it describes as Iranian deployments or arms transfers to Lebanon´s Iran-backed Hezbollah movement in the war.

(Reporting by Hesham Hajali in Cairo, Kinda Makieh in Damascus and Dan Williams in Jerusalem Writing by Dahlia Nehme Editing by Edmund Blair and Leslie Adler)
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Question 1. So is Israel...
A. protecting the Kurds?
B. fighting terrorist?

Question 2. Is this the...
A. 1st time Israel has attacked Syria?
B. 2nd time?
C. 3rd time?
D. 15th + time?

Question 3. Concerning Turkey.
Would it be easier for Assad... in Damascus... to make a defense to Turkish advances on Syrian territory if they weren't being bombed by Israel?

If we can get an honest answer to these questions we might be able to start an honest conversation about the how removing our troops from Syria has anything to do with Israel's and Turkey's long and ongoing invasion and attacks on Syria.




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Now what REALLY happened...

IDF shells Syrian army posts after stray rockets hit Golan

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The IDF launched artillery strikes on two Syrian military targets across Israel’s border on the Golan Heights on Sunday night, in response to errant rocket fire launched from Syria that has landed in Israel in the past two days.
Whether intentional or unintentional, rockets fired towards Israel should not be tolerated, and in this case, it's not...
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Default Re: Israel launches Christmas Day airstrikes on Damascus as Turkey masses tanks on th

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Question 1. So is Israel...
A. protecting the Kurds?
B. fighting terrorist?

Question 2. Is this the...
A. 1st time Israel has attacked Syria?
B. 2nd time?
C. 3rd time?
D. 15th + time?

Question 3. Concerning Turkey.
Would it be easier for Assad... in Damascus... to make a defense to Turkish advances on Syrian territory if they weren't being bombed by Israel?

If we can get an honest answer to these questions we might be able to start an honest conversation about the how removing our troops from Syria has anything to do with Israel's and Turkey's long and ongoing invasion and attacks on Syria.




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George Washington
THE situation has changed emboldening the enemy.
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Now what REALLY happened...

IDF shells Syrian army posts after stray rockets hit Golan

Whether intentional or unintentional, rockets fired towards Israel should not be tolerated, and in this case, it's not...
from the OP:
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'Our air defences confronted hostile missiles launched by Israeli war planes
I agree it's a worry.
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My worry at this point is another strangely timed gas attack.

Assad has the Rebels/Terrorist beat out of 99% of the country.
the U.S. is leaving just as he wants. So it makes NO sense for him to just CALL the U.S. back by doing something stupid.

A gas attack, Some missle struck Israelis, or something that draws us back in.
something that's unInvestigated and emotionally Shocking! but blamed on Assad.

Heck or maybe this time the terrorist do something wild, for a bit of consistency in our boggieman of the day.
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Also let's take a look back at who the enemies and "friends" are.
succinctly put by former VP Joe Biden

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"Our allies in the region were our largest problem in Syria. The Turks were great friends, and I have a great relationship with Erdogan, [who] I just spent a lot of time with, [and] the Saudis, the Emirates, etcetera.
What were they doing? They were so determined to take down Assad, and essentially have a proxy Sunni-Shia war, what did they do? They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad – except that the people who were being supplied, [they] were al-Nusra, and al-Qaeda, and the extremist elements of jihadis who were coming from other parts of the world.
Now, you think I'm exaggerating? Take a look. Where did all of this go? So now that's happening, all of a sudden, everybody is awakened because this outfit called ISIL, which was al-Qaeda in Iraq, when they were essentially thrown out of Iraq, found open space and territory in [eastern] Syria, [and they] work with al-Nusra, who we declared a terrorist group early on. And we could not convince our colleagues to stop supplying them....https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/10/07...in-washington/


the thing is it that's not the whole story the U.S. HELPED

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Originally Posted by CNN
The United States and some European allies are using defense contractors to train Syrian rebels on how to secure chemical weapons stockpiles in Syria, a senior U.S. official and several senior diplomats told CNN Sunday.
The training, which is taking place in Jordan and Turkey, involves how to monitor and secure stockpiles and handle weapons sites and materials, according to the sources. Some of the contractors are on the ground in Syria working with the rebels to monitor some of the sites, according to one of the officials.
The nationality of the trainers was not disclosed, though the officials cautioned against assuming all are American...

Sources: U.S. helping underwrite Syrian rebel training on securing chemical weapons – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs
"rebels" un-huh if you're not from Syria you're not a "rebel" you're and invader and or a mercenary.
and there's more evidence that we directly supplied and trained terrorist as well.


But below agains , as Biden outlined, is the REAL reason many wanted troops in Syria, they were NOT and ARE Not concerned about "terrorist".
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2013
...Graham said while they supported US Secretary of State John Kerry’s efforts to jump-start peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians, the Syrian civil war was much more of a pressing issue, because if it is not dealt with, “the whole region is going down.”
“To me, we’re having misplaced priorities here,” Graham warned. “The peace process is important, but Syria is literally blowing apart: 100,000 dead.”
Both Graham and McCain dismissed a proposal for an international conference on the crisis.
“No one believes that [President] Bashar Assad will agree to leave power when he’s on the winning side,” said McCain, who visited Syria in late May. “Some of us have suggested that this conference take place in Munich rather than Geneva.”
“The idea of sitting down with the Russians and the Iranians, and expecting Assad to leave when he’s winning, to me makes no sense,” Graham added. “I would urge that the same focus we’re spending on trying to restart the peace process, we should [be] spending our time trying to stop the slaughter in Syria. And when we say as a nation, our president says ‘Assad must go,’ we need to prove to people we mean it. And when our president said, ‘The use of chemical weapons is a red line,’ well that red line has been crossed. I would just urge the administration to focus on Syria, because if you don’t get this right soon, the whole region is going down.”
McCain slammed the Obama administration for exhibiting a lack of leadership in the region.
“We appreciate the efforts that our allies continue to make in the region, but we clearly see a region in turmoil, an example being the massive protests in Cairo today,” he said. “It requires American leadership in every instance and we are disappointed that there is an absence of American leadership.”
Asked by The Jerusalem Post what he meant, McCain elaborated: “We see Hezbollah with as many as 5,000 troops in Syria, we see Russian equipment falling in on a daily basis, we see the Iranian Revolutionary Guards providing training equipment, boots and troops on the ground.
“Meanwhile, the freedom fighters have only light weapons,” he continued. “It is an unfair fight. So what we want to see is the declaration of a no-fly zone. We can take out their runways and negate their air power using Patriot missile batteries close to the no-fly zone and provide the weapons that they really need. AK-47s don’t do very well against tanks. They need anti-tank and anti-air weapons. That’s what I mean by American leadership.”
https://www.jpost.com/International/...n-Syria-318276
Lindsey Graham is a lying fear/warmongering hypocrite. he recently gave a speech ...several... condemning Trump for leaving but makes out as if it's all about "terrorist". when all he really wants is to overthrow Assad.
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