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![]() Malaysia decides not to criminalize child marriage Thu, Apr 06, 2017 - A Malaysian lawmaker said girls as young as nine were “physically and spiritually” ready for marriage, as the Muslim-majority Southeast Asian country passed a law on sexual offenses against children without criminalizing child marriage. Quote:
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![]() My wife's grandmother got married off the reservation at about 12 years old. I say about because they all think she was younger. Her great grandfather was a preacher.
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So are you with the Christians against child marraige and pedophilia or not?
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What 12 (or younger) year old can make an informed decision as such, having thought through all the implications and impacts? No 12 year old that I have known. Consent. Tricky little word, that.
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![]() Trying to pretend it's "groups" while quoting one psychology professor is transparent b.s. There are some rare individuals (as compared to the whole) who try to proclaim such things, but the vast majority of the psychology experts condemn such pretense. And of course there are some pedophile groups like "NAMBLA" (of unknown size) which push the issue but they are universally despised. Trying to pretend they will blindly gain a foothold and achieve acceptance has as less justification than proclaiming Christian groups that want to kill gays won't do the same. ![]() What is more true is that there are people (such as yourself mr. wonder) who are more than willing to lie and exaggerate the interest in ignoring such harm to the child rape victim. Trying to pretend it's a bigger problem than it is.
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I'm not sure how many is enough for you. i suspect if i posted 1000 from various colleges and on various psych boards or in other parts of respectable academia, and in seats of law. that it wouldn't be enough. You'd "move the goal post" from the number and their credentials to your assessment of their effectiveness.... which seems to be. ...no need to worry until at least one law is changed. until then it only lying liars fearmongering about SOMEHOW admitted pedophiles being a danger to children ... I mean how could pedophiles ever be a danger to children by trying to get the laws and med books changed or challenged? It's the Lying Christians that want to make sure it NEVER happen that are the RAL problem right FI66?! ![]() the thing is many Christians 40 years ago thought the possibility of legal homosexual marriage across the U.S. was crazy talk. Most people STILL don't agree with it but somehow the minority view has become law. Imagine that. the minority view of it in academia changed 1st... with a few outliers. But no worries FI66 says it's SO terrible that it will NEVER be allowed.. like in Malaysia and Afghanistan... right? Like how Obama told the troops in Afghanistan to Ignore it. "don't ask don't tell" It will never be legal in any way! FI66 says so! so we should NEVER talk about it or question the FACT. FI66 has spoken
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Richard Dawkins defends “mild pedophilia,” says it does not cause “lasting harm”seems to me there's sufficient cause for alarm, HOWEVER others are free to disagree and PRETEND that these fringe secular academics have NO effect on law or culture. Kinsey is exhibit A that shows otherwise. no matter how firm you BELEIF might be to the contrary FI66.
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What I care about is that you give an honest account. Don't pull this crap where you slander the group when it's a few isolated bad eggs. THAT is what I'm talking about. And even then, to call this "pedophilia promoting Academics and groups" is just grotesquely dishonest. They are not "promoting" pedophilia. Some question the approach on pedophilia studies and whether it is scientific or whether it incorporates social bias approaches. Some question rare situations where child molestation victims recover and become stronger. Some cross the lines that we both agree should not be crossed. The problem is you try to exaggerate their existence. You try to imagine them having absurd impacts to legalize child molestation. I refuse such hysteria. Quote:
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![]() The laws will not get changed. The harm is documented and real. "challenged" is meaningless. Virtually anybody can "challenge" anything. "change"? The honest recognition is that it won't change because child rape harms kids. Quote:
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![]() You lost gay marriage because gay marriage harms nobody. There has never been any intelligible demonstration of any such harm. CHILD RAPE HARMS KIDS. That's a documentable harm. But you keep mocking the situation and failing to appreciate what people are really saying. Far easier for you to joust at strawman and immediately go to moving the goalposts rather than anything else. ![]()
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Cause we both know you're immediately going to try to move it. ![]() Quote:
Saying it does not cause "lasting harm" is not saying that it does NOT cause harm. It is ADMITTING there is harm that is caused. If a man is punched in the face, the black eye will heal. It will not cause lasting harm. That IS NOT advocating punching people in the face. Quote:
The sponsor of the event, B4U-ACT, a support group aimed at preventing pedophiles from acting on their attraction to children, hopes to influence the relevant entry in the upcoming revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.This is about helping people who are attracted to children to help them not act upon those urges. It would be like you trying to label Alcoholics Anonymous as a group that wants to legalize drunk driving, when what they want is to prevent alcoholics from drinking. Quote:
Why hasn't somebody released the nukes after nothing happened from it? ![]() And another truth you won't admit to is that while that happened 40 years ago, the NCCL has since apologized for that. Shami Chakrabarti, the former director of Liberty, issued an apology about the links between the NCCL and the PIE. In December 2013, she said: "It is a source of continuing disgust and horror that even the NCCL had to expel paedophiles from its ranks in 1983 after infiltration at some point in the 70s."[24][25] Quote:
If you're not even going to bother quoting the article, there is no point in me responding to your onslaught of link diarrhea. Quote:
You get points for finally talking about somebody who is actually pro-pedophilia, but this guy is not a professor. He's not a psychologist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Thorstad He has been working on this crap for over 40 years and can you show me ANY ACTUAL LAW he has changed? ![]() So yeah. Throw all the stones you want at David Thorstad and the NAMBLA members. I will join you in that. But DO NOT try to pretend they have any real influence on academia or psychologists. Quote:
![]() Jesus Christ. ![]() Lots of people have lied about Kinsey over the years. Lots of people have bemoaned the fact that he actually talked about a subject that some would prefer ignorance of. But he has done nothing to help encourage pedophilia... ![]() Reisman even alleges Kinsey was a pedophile himself, and today, Concerned Women for America claims on its website that Kinsey "aided and abetted the molestation of hundreds of children in order to obtain data on 'child sexuality.'"Why Alfred Kinsey Was Controversial - Business Insider Quote:
His book was published in 1948. Almost 70 years later, is child molestation no longer a crime? ![]()
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