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yeah cause all those Pakistanis and Koreans building your new airplanes
But yeah I think China should leave Taiwan alone.
Not their country. In fact it is more republic of china than the mainland:

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Taiwan , officially the Republic of China (ROC), is a state in East Asia.[12] Neighbors include the People's Republic of China (PRC, commonly known as "China") to the west, Japan to the northeast, and the Philippines to the south. Taiwan is the most populous state that is not a member of the United Nations, and the one with the largest economy.
The island of Taiwan was mainly inhabited by Taiwanese aborigines before the 17th century, when Dutch and Spanish colonies opened the island to Han Chinese immigration. After a brief rule by the Kingdom of Tungning, the island was annexed by the Qing dynasty, the last dynasty of China. The Qing ceded Taiwan to Japan in 1895 after the Sino-Japanese War. While Taiwan was under Japanese rule, the Republic of China (ROC) was established on the mainland in 1912 after the fall of the Qing dynasty. Following the Japanese surrender to the Allies in 1945, the ROC took control of Taiwan. However, the resumption of the Chinese Civil War led to the ROC's loss of the mainland to the Communists, and the flight of the ROC government to Taiwan in 1949. Although the ROC continued to claim to be the legitimate government of China, its effective jurisdiction since 1949 has been limited to Taiwan and its surrounding islands, with the main island making up 99% of its de facto territory.


In the early 1960s, Taiwan entered a period of rapid economic growth and industrialization, creating a stable industrial economy. In the 1980s and early 1990s, it changed from a one-party military dictatorship dominated by the Kuomintang to a multi-party democracy with universal suffrage. Taiwan is the 21st-largest economy in the world, and its high-tech industry plays a key role in the global economy. It is ranked highly in terms of freedom of the press, health care,[13] public education, economic freedom, and human development.[d][10][14]

The ROC continued to represent China at the United Nations until 1971, when the PRC assumed China's seat, causing the ROC to lose its UN membership. The PRC has consistently claimed sovereignty over Taiwan, and refused diplomatic relations with any country that recognizes the ROC. Today only a few smaller nations recognize the ROC as the sole legal representative of China,[15] but many other states maintain unofficial ties through representative offices and institutions that function as de facto embassies and consulates. Although Taiwan is fully self-governing, most international organizations either refuse it membership or allow it to participate only as a non-state actor. Internally, the major division in politics is between the aspirations of eventual Chinese unification or Taiwanese independence, though both sides have moderated their positions to broaden their appeal. The PRC has threatened the use of military force in response to any formal declaration of independence by Taiwan or if PRC leaders decide that peaceful unification is no longer possible.[16]

The world are cowards on this subject
its a game we play for Chinese trade
better trading than fighting
but still not right
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yeah cause all those Pakistanis and Koreans building your new airplanes
But yeah I think China should leave Taiwan alone.
Not their country. In fact it is more republic of china than the mainland:

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Taiwan , officially the Republic of China (ROC), is a state in East Asia.[12] Neighbors include the People's Republic of China (PRC, commonly known as "China") to the west, Japan to the northeast, and the Philippines to the south. Taiwan is the most populous state that is not a member of the United Nations, and the one with the largest economy.
The island of Taiwan was mainly inhabited by Taiwanese aborigines before the 17th century, when Dutch and Spanish colonies opened the island to Han Chinese immigration. After a brief rule by the Kingdom of Tungning, the island was annexed by the Qing dynasty, the last dynasty of China. The Qing ceded Taiwan to Japan in 1895 after the Sino-Japanese War. While Taiwan was under Japanese rule, the Republic of China (ROC) was established on the mainland in 1912 after the fall of the Qing dynasty. Following the Japanese surrender to the Allies in 1945, the ROC took control of Taiwan. However, the resumption of the Chinese Civil War led to the ROC's loss of the mainland to the Communists, and the flight of the ROC government to Taiwan in 1949. Although the ROC continued to claim to be the legitimate government of China, its effective jurisdiction since 1949 has been limited to Taiwan and its surrounding islands, with the main island making up 99% of its de facto territory.


In the early 1960s, Taiwan entered a period of rapid economic growth and industrialization, creating a stable industrial economy. In the 1980s and early 1990s, it changed from a one-party military dictatorship dominated by the Kuomintang to a multi-party democracy with universal suffrage. Taiwan is the 21st-largest economy in the world, and its high-tech industry plays a key role in the global economy. It is ranked highly in terms of freedom of the press, health care,[13] public education, economic freedom, and human development.[d][10][14]

The ROC continued to represent China at the United Nations until 1971, when the PRC assumed China's seat, causing the ROC to lose its UN membership. The PRC has consistently claimed sovereignty over Taiwan, and refused diplomatic relations with any country that recognizes the ROC. Today only a few smaller nations recognize the ROC as the sole legal representative of China,[15] but many other states maintain unofficial ties through representative offices and institutions that function as de facto embassies and consulates. Although Taiwan is fully self-governing, most international organizations either refuse it membership or allow it to participate only as a non-state actor. Internally, the major division in politics is between the aspirations of eventual Chinese unification or Taiwanese independence, though both sides have moderated their positions to broaden their appeal. The PRC has threatened the use of military force in response to any formal declaration of independence by Taiwan or if PRC leaders decide that peaceful unification is no longer possible.[16]

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its a game we play for Chinese trade
better trading than fighting
but still not right
Aha, as far back as 2000 years ago, we had developed Taiwan with the people from Loochoo and Southeast Asia, all of who constituted their aborigines.BTW, as for Loochoo, I think Japan and the USA should leave Loochoo alone, after all it's once an independent state and you can't annex it all the time just because it's weak and small.


So there must be a war between China and the USA? Good, let's adopt a wait-and-see attitude.

So anyone who won't bend his knees to the US are American enemies? Good logic.

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Well I would have listed Iran as worst than China in years past. In fact several of the others would have been my pick.. But China in the past 2-3 years has decided to make herself a pest to peaceful arrangements in the local areas.

As about Taiwan which isn't a NATO United Nations country is only because China has always with force make it plain it is of Chinese population and therefore theirs.

Well during WWII and after the Communist forced this non communist population to locate on these Islands.

The people have never wanted or our part of any communist group and want to be left alone.

So as to not upset China many in the West have become Taiwan's friend and trade partners.
And America has also made Taiwan a Military protectorate.

While in the Nam, I went to Taiwan on a R&R for a week. Then and now are very different. What an improvement this small country has made of itself..

What was 2,000 years ago isn't quite the same today. As the local people also didn't want to become communist... Now China before 1939 wasn't a communist nation (I believe) one man decide it would become one, and he grew his idea and fooled many more of his countrymen about what was to come.

Yet some never wanted it and even though they were not as strong they would not give up their hope of living as free people. And most in America don't want to fight China but it appears China is deciding to make it happen by her actions of late. Her spending on military upgrading and her over all nature.

So turn that on a dime and ones gets if China doesn't get it's way then she will start a war...
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Aha, as far back as 2000 years ago, we had developed Taiwan with the people from Loochoo and Southeast Asia, all of who constituted their aborigines.BTW, as for Loochoo, I think Japan and the USA should leave Loochoo alone, after all it's once an independent state and you can't annex it all the time just because it's weak and small.


So there must be a war between China and the USA? Good, let's adopt a wait-and-see attitude.

So anyone who won't bend his knees to the US are American enemies? Good logic.
no war
who said war?
just leave Taiwan alone is what I would like to see
why would ya want a place that doesn't want you?
I think the US sold our soul to make a pact against an original ally.
its on americans not chinese
the greedy americans who ruined a great manufacturing base in favor of cheap goods
if the goods were quality fine but so much has changed in this country
instead of demanding a quality product we opted for cheap throw aways
you can go to an antique museum and see american tools and gadgets that STILL work
most modern products not just chinese but island pacific and other countries' goods are very shoddy often clear copies without a true pattern for how it works
most americans of my generation are disgusted but what can we do?
plus your guys have to work in crapy conditions that make people sick

my heart goes out to you
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But I think the 2 countries ought to be like this:


Well then why is China using her people to make things so dang difficult. China says her people demand this or that, And we both know China's leaders don't want to hear a word from the population except to agree with them when told to.

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Well I would have listed Iran as worst than China in years past. In fact several of the others would have been my pick.. But China in the past 2-3 years has decided to make herself a pest to peaceful arrangements in the local areas.

As about Taiwan which isn't a NATO United Nations country is only because China has always with force make it plain it is of Chinese population and therefore theirs.

Well during WWII and after the Communist forced this non communist population to locate on these Islands.

The people have never wanted or our part of any communist group and want to be left alone.

So as to not upset China many in the West have become Taiwan's friend and trade partners.
And America has also made Taiwan a Military protectorate.

While in the Nam, I went to Taiwan on a R&R for a week. Then and now are very different. What an improvement this small country has made of itself..

What was 2,000 years ago isn't quite the same today. As the local people also didn't want to become communist... Now China before 1939 wasn't a communist nation (I believe) one man decide it would become one, and he grew his idea and fooled many more of his countrymen about what was to come.

Yet some never wanted it and even though they were not as strong they would not give up their hope of living as free people. And most in America don't want to fight China but it appears China is deciding to make it happen by her actions of late. Her spending on military upgrading and her over all nature.

So turn that on a dime and ones gets if China doesn't get it's way then she will start a war...
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step up to the plate China... Have a go at being number One.

I might suggest to Mr. Trump, that he needs to be a lot clearer in his speeches and or Press talks. By "America First" does he mean we will keep being number 1 or does he mean America will put herself first well before other free nations?

Well if the later he need not bother with Church as a show piece. As it is a Christian thing to help others with less abilities.

Besides I don't want to learn at my age the metric system and the use of China's money & counting systems. And lastly I don't trust China to be #1 because she would put herself first to profit and grow from any and all trades. Unlike how America has been doing it and suffering from doing it and gaining from last place.



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REUTERS/Jason Lee A Chinese flag is seen near a construction site in Beijing's central business area.

China does not want world leadership but could be forced to assume that role if others step back from that position, a senior Chinese diplomat said on Monday, after U.S. President Donald Trump pledged to put "America first" in his first speech.

Zhang Jun, director general of the Chinese Foreign Ministry's international economics department, made the comments during a briefing with foreign journalists to discuss President Xi Jinping's visit to Switzerland last week.
Topping the bill at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Xi portrayed China as the leader of a globalized world where only international cooperation could solve the big problems.

Speaking days before Trump assumed the presidency, Xi also urged countries to resist isolationism, signaling Beijing's desire to play a bigger role on the global stage.
Elaborating on that theme, Zhang said China had no intention of seeking global leadership.

"If anyone were to say China is playing a leadership role in the world I would say it's not China rushing to the front but rather the front runners have stepped back leaving the place to China," Zhang said.

"If China is required to play that leadership role then China will assume its responsibilities," he added.

At his inauguration on Friday, Trump struck a nationalist and populist tone, pledging to end what he called an "American carnage" of rusted factories and crime.

China is the world's second-largest economy and others also rely on it for their economic growth, Zhang said.

And I would add in case one doesn't already know it, China was the number two econemy back in the 1800's.

"We still hope that the United States and other Western economies can continue to make an even bigger contribution to the world economic recovery. We've heard Trump announce that the United States will achieve four percent growth and we're very happy about that," he added.
While Trump said American workers have been devastated by the outsourcing of jobs abroad, he did not mention China by name in his inaugural speech...

However, he has threatened to put punitive tariffs on imports of Chinese goods.

Zhang said he thought Trump would not be able to achieve his economic growth goals if he was also fighting trade wars.

"A trade war or an exchange rate war won't be advantageous to any country," Zhang added.

Separately, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said Xi had sent a congratulatory message to Trump upon his assumption of office, but gave no other details.

(Reporting by Ben Blanchard; Additional reporting by Christian Shepherd; ...............................Editing by Simon Cameron-Moore) ...........................
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Anybody with a working brain can tell Trump means Americans first.

China assuming world leadership is like an anal-retentive control lunatic taking over a house.
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, a man is giving wisdom above, and we all need to listen as he decide for all of us , in his dreams...


hey at least he isn't this time.
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