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Britain has officially adopted Islamic law, quietly sanctioning powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence, the London Times reported Monday.

The paper said rulings issued through five sharia courts "are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through county courts or the country's High Court, a part of its Supreme Court system."

Some lawmakers and other officials were concerned the development could signal the creation of a "parallel legal system" within the country.

Other officials denounced the move outright.

"If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so," said Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary.

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Congratulations to all our Muslim posters on this stunning victory and in the advance toward an ultimate goal of global Sharia rule.

Accomplished, essentially, without firing a shot.

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The West - "Sure we'll appease you!...We'll pretend our rights don't apply to you and you can do things in whatever way your god commands you!"...
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We need to start looking at Islam as the legal and political system it is and not just a religion.
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Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said that sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals under a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.

The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

The disclosures come after Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, sparked a national debate and calls for his resignation for saying that the establishment of sharia in the future "seems unavoidable" in Britain.

In July, Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers, the Lord Chief Justice agreed that Muslims in Britain should be able to live according to Islamic law to decide financial and marital disputes.
Sharia law courts operating in Britain - Telegraph

Basically what this means is that Muslims, WHO AGREE TO DO SO, can take their civil legal conflicts and put the case through ARBITRATION if BOTH PARTIES AGREE to do so.

In some cases, I can see such a situation being viable. America uses "arbitration" as well including in divorce proceedings.
Americans could choose to have a pastor "arbitrate" a situation if they wanted ...

However, IF this includes CRIMINAL proceedings, then that is right out of the question.
CRIMINAL law is an issue of the government.
EDIT: Ahh. Screw the "IF" in the above sentence starting with "However, IF..."

The article goes on with that issue as well...
Mr Siddiqi said he expected the courts to handle a greater number of "smaller" criminal cases in coming years as more Muslim clients approach them. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.
This should be out of the question.
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Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said that sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals under a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.

The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

The disclosures come after Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, sparked a national debate and calls for his resignation for saying that the establishment of sharia in the future "seems unavoidable" in Britain.

In July, Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers, the Lord Chief Justice agreed that Muslims in Britain should be able to live according to Islamic law to decide financial and marital disputes.
Sharia law courts operating in Britain - Telegraph

Basically what this means is that Muslims, WHO AGREE TO DO SO, can take their civil legal conflicts and put the case through ARBITRATION if BOTH PARTIES AGREE to do so.

In some cases, I can see such a situation being viable. America uses "arbitration" as well including in divorce proceedings.
Americans could choose to have a pastor "arbitrate" a situation if they wanted ...

However, IF this includes CRIMINAL proceedings, then that is right out of the question.
CRIMINAL law is an issue of the government.
EDIT: Ahh. Screw the "IF" in the above sentence starting with "However, IF..."

The article goes on with that issue as well...
Mr Siddiqi said he expected the courts to handle a greater number of "smaller" criminal cases in coming years as more Muslim clients approach them. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.
This should be out of the question.
What we are seeing is nothing less than the seeds of a parallel shadow government -- a hostile, intolerant one -- being planted within the UK.
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Congratulations to all our Muslim posters on this stunning victory and in the advance toward an ultimate goal of global Sharia rule.

Accomplished, essentially, without firing a shot.

There is already a nod in the direction of Islamic law in Britain. There's some kind of tradition in Islam about transferring a mortgage twice, but in England they only have to pay the tax for that once, because it is understood the other transfer is just to carry out this tradition.
So we need to look a little closer before we condemn something that on the surface looks weird to us.
I am still undecided about this. I need to know more.
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