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The Iron Dome is proving an excellent missile defence system in Israel. My daughter lives in central Tel-Aviv and were it not for the ID there, and in other towns' built-up areas, things would be very serious.


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I would have to disagree [NOT WHAT IT HAS DONE BUT WHAT IT HASN'T DONE] since it has only shot down about 10% of the total missiles fired into Israel. Why it hasn't downed more is beyond me. Now I am going by what I read or saw in the first 3 days of this mess.

Yet let me add this to what PF has posted so far. It appears the other Terror Group is now backing Hamas. Yep their evil twin Hezbollah... And Hamas wants Israel to give up items and prisoners to even consider any possible peace deals.

They started it and make demands and if some idiot Liberals can't see the reality of this sick & reasoning, then they to are as wacky as these Terrorist.

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Gaza 'resistance' will defeat Israel: Hezbollah chief
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An injured soldier is evacuated from near the Israeli border with Gaza Strip, on July 21, 2014 (AFP Photo/Menahem Kahana)


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Beirut (AFP) - Lebanon's Hezbollah is backing the Palestinian "resistance" in Gaza to defeat Israel, the Shiite movement's leader Hassan Nasrallah said on Monday.

Nasrallah told Hamas' exiled chief Khaled Meshaal by telephone: "Hezbollah and the Lebanese resistance stand firmly on the side of the Intifada and the Palestinian people's resistance, and support Hamas' strategy and the just conditions it has set to end the conflict."

Hamas is demanding Israel end its siege of Gaza and has called for the release of scores of prisoners from Israeli jails before it considers peace talks proposed by Egypt.

Nasrallah, meanwhile, expressed his "complete confidence in the resistance's capacity to defend itself and to achieve a new victory in July", a reference to Israel's failure to crush Hezbollah in its July 2006 offensive against Lebanon.

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PF I saw this only about a hour ago.

I was watching several of the 24/7 news outlets and Fox had this point. The other news station might have showed the same thing, yet not while I was watching.

Where in Israel the UN Schools were being used to store rockets/missiles and set up to fire on Israel.


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the UN Commissioner and his staff were speaking about so many children being harmed or worst by Israel.

[I to feel for them, yet their parent can stop this by ousting Hamas from their government]

So the UN is also at fault for their schools being hit
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Man if I were to run for very high office my pledge would be to end all payments, membership to the UN and to rid it from American soil.

It is an control, grabbing for more power over so much, organization. We have seen it in our passed and know they will demand more in the future.
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I would have to disagree [NOT WHAT IT HAS DONE BUT WHAT IT HASN'T DONE] since it has only shot down about 10% of the total missiles fired into Israel. Why it hasn't downed more is beyond me. Now I am going by what I read or saw in the first 3 days of this mess.

Yet let me add this to what PF has posted so far. It appears the other Terror Group is now backing Hamas. Yep their evil twin Hezbollah... And Hamas wants Israel to give up items and prisoners to even consider any possible peace deals.

They started it and make demands and if some idiot Liberals can't see the reality of this sick & reasoning, then they to are as wacky as these Terrorist.


Gaza 'resistance' will defeat Israel: Hezbollah chief
The Iron Dome anti-missile system has actually destroyed 90%, not 10%, of the missiles directed into civilian areas. ID detects the direction the Gazan missile will land in, whether in open fields, not highly inhabited areas, and is used for those Gazan missiles. If there is a chance the Gazan missile will land in a very sparsely populated area then the ID is not used, but of course there is a 15 second (to 2 minutes depending on the distance from the firing area) 'Code Red' siren for people to run to shelter or go to a safe area of their home. Failing that, if they are on the road then to stop their vehicle and crouch down on the road.

Liberals - well, that's another story. They walk around with their head up their jacksie. The liberals in Israel are known by the right as 'the cancer of society.'

Hamas is negotiating with North Korea to replenish Hamas's weapons stocks. This is why the most important part of Operation Protective Edge (the name Israel has given to this particular war) is the destruction of the tunnels. Egypt (being arch foes of Hamas) is doing their bit by destroying the tunnels that are going through to the Egyptian side of the border, and Israel's main priority is destroying the tunnels that Hamas has dug which come out on the Israeli side, (not necessarily right near the border but some hundreds of yards within Israel).




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The Friday (holy day) sermon four days ago from Gaza. Thank goodness a recent poll says the majority of Israelis think that Israel needs to carry on with this war until its objectives are completed successfully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7WAoczRV_k&list=UUpBvIBfZ-foo5ZbLH5O0N4g%3Fautohide%3D1
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Since launching the ground phase of Operation Protective Edge, the IDF has found an enormous amount of weapons in the Gaza Strip. Hamas is known to keep munitions in homes, schools, mosques and hospitals. In many cases, IDF forces have found Hamas weapons caches in underground tunnels.




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Dark Side of UNRWA Emerges with Discovery of Terror Tunnel Hidden Inside Clinic
by TheTower.org Staff | 07.30.14 6:12 pm
The Times of Israel reported today that IDF troops found a booby-trapped tunnel that opened into a clinic run by the United Nations Relief Works Agency (UNRWA).

Three IDF soldiers were killed on Wednesday in Gaza in an explosion at a booby-trapped UNRWA health clinic that housed the opening of a tunnel, the IDF’s Gaza Division commander, Brig. Gen. Micky Edelstein, said. …

The three troops, part of the elite Maglan unit, were taking precautionary measures in efforts to limit damage to the structure before eliminating the tunnel, when the explosives detonated in the small building.

Fifteen soldiers were injured in the collapse of the building. After the explosion the Israeli troops were fired upon by Hamas terrorists. The operation of the terrorists within and near a United Nations facility is a violation of the neutrality of the UN. The UN’s silence on this breach of its neutrality is also telling.

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Netanyahu: The Situation in Gaza is Better Now Than Before

In live press conference, Prime Minister notes that the operation has been successful - but the international community's reaction has not.
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First Publish: 8/6/2014, 7:45 PM / Last Update: 8/6/2014, 8:14 PM

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu gave a press conference to foreign journalists on Wednesday, to provide an update on Operation Protective Edge after a 72-hour ceasefire.

Netanyahu began by noting that Israel is ready if the ceasefire is violated, saying the situation has improved since the war and that more units have been employed along the Gaza border.

"We closely monitor the implementation of the ceasefire on the ground, and we are holding position in the event it is violated," he stated. "The army is in the field, with reinforcements, to meet any scenario."

"In any case, around the Gaza vicinity communities we have stationed forces that were not there before the operation, in order to provide better protection for local residents," he added.

"In recent years, Hamas dug a tunnel system in order to carry out attacks against Israeli citizens," the Prime Minister continued, adding that "we left the area only after making sure that the IDF destroyed the tunnel systems that we knew about."

"Hamas also built a rocket system designed to harm Israeli citizens," he continued. "It is the Iron Dome, along with the iron discipline of the citizens of Israel, which prevented this [from succeeding]."

Regarding the future, Netanyahu said that the IDF is working “to create technology means to locate new tunnels that will reach into our territory,” Netanyahu stated.

The Prime Minister also thanked the IDF for its progress.

“The IDF is an amazing army," he said. "It’s a strong army [which] had major achievements. It stood and stands by all the requirements."

"The entire nation is behind the IDF, during peace and during war," he added. "I am proud of the IDF. I am proud to be the prime minister of such united a people.”

Netanyahu emphasized that Hamas, not Israel, is responsible for civilian casualties.

"The person responsible for destruction and death in Gaza is Hamas," he stated.

Netanyahu then showed footage of rocket attacks suppressed by Hamas terrorists, confirming several reports - including from the Government Press Office - that foreign journalists were abused by Hamas terrorists, as well as the UN's role in the conflict.

"This is the UNRWA's elementary school for boys," he explains. "You see around that five mortars fired, four mortars fired . . .it's important to see that, to understand what our forces are facing in Gaza."

He also showed terror tunnels and shafts next to mosques and schools.

"This is where terror tunnels are dug. In many places, they are dug from homes," he noted. "This is as example, again, of terror tunnels used to fire at, kidnap, and kill our civilians."

Now that journalists have left Gaza, he said, "I expect to see even more documentation of Hamas terrorists hiding behind civilian population [. . .] I think the truth should come out."

To that end, Netanyahu emphasized that Israel's goals - unlike what has been represented in foreign media - were to protect Israelis, not harm Palestinians.

"The goal of Operation Protective Edge was to protect Israeli civilians - to protect them from 3,500 rockets [. . .] and from terror tunnels and death squads," he stated. "Israel deeply regrets every civilian casualty, every single one [. . .] the people of Gaza are not our enemy, our enemy is Hamas, and other terrorist organizations."

"The tragedy of Gaza is that it is ruled by Hamas," he added.

Netanyahu warned that the international community's condemnation of Israel sets a dangerous precedent for the global war against Islamist terrorism.

"Nearly everyone says that they support Israel's right to defends itself, and we appreciate it," he said. "But there are those who say that Israel should not implement that right."

"But this is a mistake - it would justify Hamas's use of civilians as human shields," he said, and make it harder for the Western world to fight terrorism.

Netanyahu connects this strategy to Hezbollah, Boko Haram, and ISIS takeovers worldwide.

"The test is for the civilized world itself: how it is able to defend itself," he stated.

In connection to this, Netanyahu noted Hamas's timing. More than just rejected six cease-fires, the final cease-fire - which was implemented Tuesday at 8:00 am - is the same that was offered, and rejected, very early on in the fighting.

"90% of the fatalities in this conflict could have been avoided if Hamas had not rejected then the ceasefire it accepts now," Netanyahu fired, calling for Hamas to "be ostracized" by the international community.


"It must be ostracised from the family of nations for its callous abuse of civilians," he stated.

"Every civilian casualty is a tragedy of Hamas's own making," he continued. "This is something for which it must be held accountable. For the sake of their own children, it must not be allowed to get away with this."

Netanyahu: The Situation in Gaza is Better Now - Defense/Security - News - Arutz Sheva


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I was watching Charlie Rose last evening and Kelly Meagen and it seems now the UN [the most useless group in the world ] stated it was closing all UN Schools which are the only shelter for plenty of these people of Gaza. No more electric, water or food to be delivered.

Then I guess from public pressure the UN stated it would allow families to stay in the schools.

So right after the newest truce is working the UN abandons these people. What a

Hamas won squat for the lost of life they allowed.

Just maybe the Palestinians people will now wake up and rid themselves from allowing terrorists to take part in governing them..

And if this HATE can be put aside all might live peaceful lives till another rash act takes place.

I say this because this is the M.E. where but one group values life.

Now say what you like. Yet consider what I say below.

But hasn't America in all of it wars, police actions etc., as most others that do battle or engage in wars, have had plenty of non combat civilians killed or harmed in each action?

So for the number of days that Hamas forced this the total of innocents harmed or killed was limited. As the world was scorning Israel as the toll climbed.

So Israel didn't try to just harm anyone every time.
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