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Russia lays claim to the North Pole - and all its gas, oil, and diamonds






Russian President Vladimir Putin is making an astonishing bid to grab a vast chunk of the Arctic - so he can tap its vast potential oil, gas and mineral wealth.
His scientists claim an underwater ridge near the North Pole is really part of Russia's continental shelf.
One newspaper printed a map of the "new addition", a triangle five times the size of Britain with twice as much oil as Saudi Arabia.

READ MORE - Putin's Arctic invasion: Russia lays claim to the North Pole - and all its gas, oil, and diamonds | Mail Online
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Russia prepares for future combat in the Arctic



24/ 06/ 2008

MOSCOW, June 24 (RIA Novosti) - Russia must be ready to fight wars in the Arctic to protect its national interests in a region that contains large and untapped deposits of natural resources, a high-ranking military official said in an interview published Tuesday.

"After several countries contested Russia's rights for the resource-rich continental shelf in the Arctic, we have immediately started the revision of our combat training programs for military units that may be deployed in the Arctic in case of a potential conflict," Lt. Gen. Vladimir Shamanov, who heads the Defense Ministry's combat training directorate, told the Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star) newspaper.

Under the Law of the Sea, coastal states can declare an Exclusive Economic Zone stretching 200 nautical miles (370 km) from the shore, but this area can be extended if it is a part of the country's continental shelf or shallower waters. Some Arctic shelves extend for hundreds of miles, creating the possibility of overlapping territorial claims.

Last August, as part of a scientific expedition, two Russian mini-subs made a symbolic eight-hour dive beneath the North Pole to bolster the country's claim that the Arctic's Lomonosov Ridge lies in the country's economic zone. A titanium Russian flag was also planted on the seabed. Russia first claimed the territory in 2001, but the UN demanded more evidence.
The expedition irritated a number of Western countries, particularly the U.S. and Canada.
The general said wars "are won or lost long before they start" and combat training was crucial for the success of any future military operations.

"The Americans, for example, recently conducted the Northern Edge 12-day large-scale exercise in Alaska, involving about 5,000 personnel, 120 aircraft and several warships," Shamanov said, adding that Russia could not ignore such a show of military force near vital Arctic regions.
He said the Defense Ministry would drastically change its approach to the combat training of highly-professional military units in the Leningrad, Siberian and Far Eastern military districts, which could participate in potential conflicts in the Arctic.
He also said two expert groups in his directorate were closely studying combat training models based on computer-assisted combat simulations that have been adopted by some foreign militaries.

"We may propose to the defense minister setting up a company-level fully computerized training center at one of the former testing sites," the general said.
Russia's General Staff is planning to determine the new composition and size of the Armed Forces by the beginning of July.

Meanwhile, the Defense Ministry has already announced plans to expand the presence of the Russian Navy in the world's oceans, including the Arctic, and extend the operational range of submarines deployed in the northern latitudes.

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You don't have to be afraid. We won't kill you. Why are you all shook up anyway. Do you want a fight? You know that we will turn Russia in to glass if they launched a strike. So why try to act tough. We have been tough for years. But I don't remember American citizens threatening you. You should try to relax commrade. Life is short enough without trying to make it shorter by acting tough. savvy?
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You don't have to be afraid. We won't kill you. Why are you all shook up anyway. Do you want a fight? You know that we will turn Russia in to glass if they launched a strike. So why try to act tough. We have been tough for years. But I don't remember American citizens threatening you. You should try to relax commrade. Life is short enough without trying to make it shorter by acting tough. savvy?
I think you should be a moderator on the Jerry Springer show.
There are lots of clowns on his show, join their club.
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I think you should be a moderator on the Jerry Springer show.
There are lots of clowns on his show, join their club.


Do you suffer from an identity problem? You seem to be bent on wanting to be superior. Why? In the big scheme of things what do you think you will gain?
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You know, once in awhile NPR does post something with merit.

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President Vladimir Putin has long promised to restore Russian greatness and build an "energy empire." But until now, his empire-building had been confined to taking control of corporations operating on his turf, buying into businesses abroad, and blackmailing former Soviet Republics who dared vote against Moscow-backed candidates, moved to join NATO or acted in otherwise uppity ways. But Putin's imperial ambitions have recently added an element of classic 19th century-style territorial expansion: Late last month, Moscow signaled its intentions to annex the entire North Pole, an area twice the size of France with Belgium and Switzerland thrown in — except all of it under water.

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The ice-frozen North Pole is currently a no man's land supervised by a U.N. Commission. The five Polar countries — Russia, the U.S., Canada, Norway and Denmark — each control only a 200-mile economic zone along their coasts. And none of these economic zones reach the North Pole. Under the current U.N. Maritime convention, one country's zone can be extended only if it can prove that the continental shelf into which it wishes to expand is a natural extension of its own territory, by showing that it shares a similar geological structure.
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So, the Russians claimed a great scientific discovery late last month. An expedition of 50 scientists that spent 45 days aboard the Rossia nuclear ice-breaker found that an underwater ridge (the Lomonosov ridge) directly links Russia's Arctic coast to the North Pole. This, they insist, surely guarantees Russia's rights over a vast Polar territory that also happens to contain some 10 billion tons of oil and natural gas deposits.
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I don't think our Russian friend is capable of debate. He just wants to post Russian propaganda. He probably is paid by his government.
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I don't think our Russian friend is capable of debate. He just wants to post Russian propaganda. He probably is paid by his government.
Well, try to post something coherent, then I will debate. Alright?
But for now you're posting goofy, the Jerry Springer show type material.

By the way, why did you send me threatening letter in which you said that I am about to lose the membership?
Is that what you do, MODERATOR Mikeyy, to insist on your point of view when you cannot beat your opponent with a power of intelligence.


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Well, try to post something coherent, then I will debate. Alright?
But for now you're posting goofy, the Jerry Springer show type material.

By the way, why did you send me threatening letter in which you said that I am about to lose the membership?
Is that what you do, MODERATOR Mikeyy, to insist on your point of view when you cannot beat your opponent with a power of intelligence.


Correction: It is Saltwn that is running out of patience (though she is not alone), and I'll explain to you why...

Your threads are constantly on the offense... Obama wants the Ultimate Destruction of Russia... Russia prepared to fight for the Artic... etc. etc. Most of your sources are propagandistic, not credible. If the Artic is yours, by all means take it, it's a non-issue for us at this point (much like your delapidated country). Our government has bigger concerns than your inflated ego.
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