'America hasn't even begun to repay its debt

[mlurp]

Can one believe this. Ungrateful at the least. I was searching for more info on the missing billions in Iraq and found this.
Iraq: U.S. has no claim to oil boom
'America has hardly even begun to repay its debt to Iraq,' Baghdad official says
By Liz Sly | Tribune correspondent: Iraq: U.S. has no claim to oil boom -- -- chicagotribune.com
12:42 AM CDT, May 1, 2008
BAGHDAD — As Congress gears up to debate the Bush administration's latest request for an additional $108 billion in war funding for Iraq and Afghanistan, Iraqis are fuming at suggestions being floated by lawmakers that Baghdad should start paying a share of the war's costs by providing cheap fuel to the U.S. military.

"America has hardly even begun to repay its debt to Iraq," said Abdul Basit, the head of Iraq's Supreme Board of Audit, an independent body that oversees Iraqi government spending. "This is an immoral request because we didn't ask them to come to Iraq, and before they came in 2003 we didn't have all these needs."

The issue of Baghdad's contribution to the costs of the war jumped to the forefront early in April during testimony to Congress of the Iraq war commander, Gen. David Petraeus, and the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker. Noting that the soaring price of oil is likely to give Iraq a revenue bonanza this year of up to $70 billion, senators quizzed the two on why Iraq isn't using its rising oil income to pay more of the costs of reconstruction.

[tristanrobin]

"This is an immoral request because we didn't ask them to come to Iraq, and before they came in 2003 we didn't have all these needs."

I am one of the people appalled that we have put our children's children's children in debt for this war - and think Iraq should be paying its own way now.

However, it's hard to argue with the above quote.

[mlurp]

Originally Posted by tristanrobin

I am one of the people appalled that we have put our children's children's children in debt for this war - and think Iraq should be paying its own way now.

However, it's hard to argue with the above quote.

Very true. And I am another one like you upset over its outrageous costs.

But I don't recall the govt. ever asking us to leave either. And this amounts to pure greed on their part I think. But there is more than one way to skin a cat it is said.
So maybe we need to not give a dollar to the Iraq govt. anylonger.
Then we would hear leave our country now! Which would please me and I am sure the troops.
Iraq would be lead by Iran in a week if we left now or in the the near future. And while we were leaving I am sure these same men of this govt. would be on planes headed to any country that would have them and their millions.

[foundit66]

"This is an immoral request because we didn't ask them to come to Iraq, and before they came in 2003 we didn't have all these needs."

Originally Posted by tristanrobin

I am one of the people appalled that we have put our children's children's children in debt for this war - and think Iraq should be paying its own way now.
However, it's hard to argue with the above quote.

But, but, but....
"greeted as liberators" ????
< end sarcasm >

I can't remember the name of the author, but there is a book out there that talks about a concept (I firmly believe in) that discusses how some societies are at the stage of being lead by a dictator, and some societies are at the stage of utilizing democracy.

We pushed a "democracy" on Iraq, and I can't help but wonder if they weren't really ready for it. They obviously can't stand on their own two feet.
And if Iraq is anything like many of our other previous middle East support endeavors, it will turn around and bite us in the ass. (Like supporting bin Laden in his efforts against the Soviets)

And the thing that really disturbs me about some on the right is that they don't give a damn how deep of a ditch we dig for ourselves, as long as we can put Iraq in our "win" column.

Our country has some SERIOUS problems here at home. Short-term and long term.
Baby boomers. Social security going belly up. Our debt to communist countries like China is sky-rocketing.



I guess I'm just curious as whether or not any of these "no price is too high" right wingers are going to address this beyond pounding their chest.
Cause the funny thing is that if Iraq REFUSES to pick up a portion of the bill, and refuses to put out, those "no price is too high" right wingers are more than happy to keep pumping money to Iraq in the hopes that someday they can count it as a win...

[mlurp]

Profound !
And I can only agree with you on the right wingers shoveling $ after $ because it is to their benefit in profits and agenda.

[L.P. Farnsworth]

I had no problem at all with Bush giving the go ahead to wipe out Iraq's offensive capabilities, but I knew the 'occupation' was a very bad idea. The major cities should have just been sealed up and the population allowed to butcher each other with abandon. In fact it would be a great idea to wipe out Syria's and Saudi Arabia's while we're there, only this time no 'occupation', just keep them contained until they either solve their 'issues' or die off.

It is merely the usual Arab arrogance and definitely greed; it's a shakedown, pure and simple. After all, they are just a bandit culture who did almost nothing for thousands of years but raid, loot, rob, and murder, and when that wasn't feasable they fell back on protection and extortion rackets, and slave trading. Even the Saudis have two armies; one is the national army, and the other is the Royal Family guard army, which protects the Saud family from the national army ...

I don't know why people in the West have the idea they suddenly changed when the Ottomans were dethroned in WW I; they haven't, and they won't.

[dga]

Originally Posted by Farnsworth, L.P.

I had no problem at all with Bush giving the go ahead to wipe out Iraq's offensive capabilities, but I knew the 'occupation' was a very bad idea. The major cities should have just been sealed up and the population allowed to butcher each other with abandon. In fact it would be a great idea to wipe out Syria's and Saudi Arabia's while we're there, only this time no 'occupation', just keep them contained until they either solve their 'issues' or die off.

It is interesting to see that the world is somewhat justified in some of their views of the American people, as power hungry, self serving and completely uninterested in only their $urvival. I agreed up to the "occupation was a bad idea" bit, but after that, this is just appalling, Only petulent and spoiled children - and the adults they become - do things because they can.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will..." Thomas Jefferson