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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/s...ers/57058760/1
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Under Mohammed Morsi's authority, officials have moved to silence influential critics in the media. And though a civilian, he declared himself in charge of military operations against militants in the Sinai peninsula.

Over the weekend, Morsi ordered the retirement of the defense minister and chief of staff and reclaimed key powers the military seized from him days before he took office on June 30. With that, Egypt's first freely elected president amassed in his own hands powers that rival those of his ousted authoritarian predecessor, Hosni Mubarak.
Hum. The "Arab Spring" is beginning to look like and early hard Totalitarian Winter. Exactly as Conservative commentators predicted.



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If left unchecked, there are fears Morsi and his fundamentalist group, the Muslim Brotherhood, could turn the clock back on the country's tumultuous shift to democratic rule and pursue their goal of someday turning the most populous Arab nation into an Islamic state.
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The pro-democracy youth groups behind the uprising are in disarray. They lost much of the popular appeal they once had among the millions who answered their call to come out and protest during the uprising. Squabbling and demoralized, they may do little more than denounce Morsi just as they did when the military grabbed the president's power in June.

Morsi has counted on the support of the pro-democracy movement in his power struggle with the military. But many of the activists view the Brotherhood as politically opportunistic and obsessed with power, suspecting Morsi is driven by those same ambitions.

"Courageous presidential decrees have foiled the counter-revolution plots," Brotherhood stalwart Essam el-Erian wrote on his Twitter account of Morsi's latest stand against the military. "The president performed his sovereign duty and realized the demands of the revolution. Every revolutionary must support the president to prevent any attempt against the revolution."
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Did anyone honestly think things would change for the better?!
I think there may be a power struggle soon and Morsi will be toppled for someone more radical.


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Did anyone honestly think things would change for the better?!
I think there may be a power struggle soon and Morsi will be toppled for someone more radical.


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A lot of liberals thought that this was a good thing. They saw that Pres. Obama backed this and so they fell head over heels in love with the Arab Spring. While those of us with functioning brains kept saying that this didn't look good and that the group that was taking over looked like it was going to be worse than the ones they threw out.

I doubt that Morsi is going to get overthrown, though. He's a lot smarter that Mubarack (sp) and his power base is a more popluar one, with less focus on being backed by the military and more by the Muslim Brotherhood. The only group that might take him on would be the military and that would be Libya all over again. If they try a coup while Pres. Obama is in office, the US will come down in support of Morsi and the military will get it's butt kicked. If they wait, then I think that if Romney is Pres., they won't get any support on either side. Either way, the military will end up losing since the MB has quite a bit of influence in certain areas of the military and it will end up fighting itself in many places. I just don't see the military taking the risk that they might end up losing even more power in a fight that they are FAR from guaranteed they can win.
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A lot of liberals thought that this was a good thing. They saw that Pres. Obama backed this and so they fell head over heels in love with the Arab Spring. While those of us with functioning brains kept saying that this didn't look good and that the group that was taking over looked like it was going to be worse than the ones they threw out.

I doubt that Morsi is going to get overthrown, though. He's a lot smarter that Mubarack (sp) and his power base is a more popluar one, with less focus on being backed by the military and more by the Muslim Brotherhood. The only group that might take him on would be the military and that would be Libya all over again. If they try a coup while Pres. Obama is in office, the US will come down in support of Morsi and the military will get it's butt kicked. If they wait, then I think that if Romney is Pres., they won't get any support on either side. Either way, the military will end up losing since the MB has quite a bit of influence in certain areas of the military and it will end up fighting itself in many places. I just don't see the military taking the risk that they might end up losing even more power in a fight that they are FAR from guaranteed they can win.
I should have made myself more clear that I believe Morsi will be overthrown from within his Government, perhaps by assassination.


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You guys just live in a world all your own don't ya. You are really getting to be funny to watch.
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You guys just live in a world all your own don't ya. You are really getting to be funny to watch.
Says the guy who didn't know where Judea and Samaria was and who believes Mohammed was engaged to Aisha when he was 9 and she was 8.


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Says the guy who didn't know where Judea and Samaria was and who believes Mohammed was engaged to Aisha when he was 9 and she was 8.


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I didn't say any of those things did I?
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I didn't say any of those things did I?
You did.


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Hum. The "Arab Spring" is beginning to look like and early hard Totalitarian Winter. Exactly as Conservative commentators predicted.




Yep. Exactly as Conservative commentators predicted.



You know, a lot of people here owe Glenn Beck an apology.
Conservative commentators???

I dunnO about that, but then I don't listen to them either....... There are/were plenty on the left saying the same things-including myself.....

Illusions of Arab George Washingtons & Jeffersons breaking out all over the place was naive @ best.........

As kissinger would say, these things are just to important to be left up to those ppl............

I dunnO what the outcome of all this will be, but it won't be dumbocracy as we know it........
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