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You just drove a stake though the heart of Islam, and don't even have the perception to see it.
Oh, stop it! You're just into war. You get your ya-ya's out killing people. You're just another war-monger wanting to drop bombs on innocent women and children.
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You do not have to be a mind reader, simply intelligent, knowledgeable and perceptive enough to understand the themes so often encountered here and elsewhere.
It's called 'love'. And that's what this thread is about. Israeli's loving Iranian's and Iranian's loving Israeli's.

Who do you love?
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It's called 'love'. And that's what this thread is about. Israeli's loving Iranian's and Iranian's loving Israeli's.

Who do you love?
Some people only see hate, no matter what. Sad but true.
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Some people only see hate, no matter what. Sad but true.
I wish I could argue that point, but I can't.

You're right. You're absolutely right!
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Hatred is most often caused by fear...or, to put it less subjectively - aggression is rooted in fear. Simplistic? I consider "simplistic" the blanket generalizations I see when Islam is discussed. I don't consider that "knowledge" any more than I consider these to be examples of "understanding" and "discernment".

Girl attacked burned and robbed in broad daylight (From Croydon Guardian)
Muslim Student Attacked On Baylor Campus
Worshippers taunted during mosque attack, court heard (From Kingston Guardian)
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Rather depends on the ideology and the actions by and against it's believers doesn't it? It's cute the way you insert "Nazi's" as if, by implication Islam falls into the same category an assertion you have yet to prove other than by painting them all as extremists.
You are just not at all logical or consistant, Coyote -- simply dogmatic.

As to actions by and against its believers, the consensus within Islam is that apostates should be put to death. I realize you are perfectly comfortable with that, and call others haters and bigots for not supporting it, too. To each their own, though, eh?
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Who do you love?
It's certainly not you, Billo, so not to worry.
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As to actions by and against its believers, the consensus within Islam is that apostates should be put to death.
No, that's the consensus among a small minority of muslims. And no one else is "perfectly comfortable with that"
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No, that's the consensus among a small minority of muslims. And no one else is "perfectly comfortable with that"
It depends what you consider "small minority"...

I wrote this awhile ago in a post...still holds true...

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Up to 1.3 percent of Indonesian Muslims nationwide admit using violence against people or objects they consider contradictory to their beliefs, a survey found, with more than 40 percent ready to wage war for their faith.
Now consider this...

There are 200 Muslims in Indonesia...1.3% ADMITTED to using violence already (That's 2.6 MILLION people of the population calculated out)...

40% are willing to "wage war" fo their faith...That's 80 million people, AP...More than TWICE the amount of the "Religious Right" in America...and that would be if 100% of the "Religious Right" answered the same way...which you damn well know they wouldn't...

BTW - That's JUST Indonesia...Add up the number in all Islamic countries and you got over a COUPLE OF HUNDRED MILLION Muslims willing to wage war for
"faith" and "perceived insults to Islam"...

If that doesn't make you day "WTF?", then you'll be more surprised than I when they get a hold of nuclear weapons and actually use them...
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What the hell are we arguing about. Before conflict you have a choice. To reach out the hand of friendship or to antagonize. I say what this FB page has done is allow for a option that avoids hate and death. How does that hurt anything?
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It depends what you consider "small minority"...

I wrote this awhile ago in a post...still holds true...
Define what 'wage a war for their faith' means, because that's a pretty ****ing vague phrase. As far as I'm concerned, the US wages war for our faith all the ****ing time. We wage war to protect that which we believe is right.

If someone were to assume that question meant "Would I wage war to protect my freedom to practice my faith" (which is exactly how I would take the meaning, since I can't really figure out what else it could mean), then pretty much everyone in the US would "yes".
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