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[cnredd]

Originally Posted by Mikeyy

Have you ever been anywhere at all? I have been to indonesia. In fact last month. Hey lookie me. Still alive. Ask Santorum if he would wage war for his faith.

But when you were in Indonesia, you didn't blaspheme or insult Islam, did you?...

Go back and do that...Start yelling "F**k Islam!" and "There is no God!" in the middle of a crowded square, then tell me your results...Or maybe have your next of kin tell me since you won't be able to reply...

[Mikeyy]

Originally Posted by cnredd

But when you were in Indonesia, you didn't blaspheme or insult Islam, did you?...

Go back and do that...Start yelling "F**k Islam!" and "There is no God!" in the middle of a crowded square, then tell me your results...Or maybe have your next of kin tell me since you won't be able to reply...

Do that in church in the south.

[Coyote]

Originally Posted by cnredd

I said I had to go to a different site to get the article because the ORIGINAL site was "not found" anymore"...

Second, the survey was done by the Center for Islamic and Social Studies (PPIM) in Indonesia itself...Why you attack the site for reporting it is beyond me...Maybe you think the "Center for Islamic and Social Studies (PPIM)" is some rightwing site?...

You are misstating my "attack". I am not attacking the site for reporting it I'm attacking it for providing NO information on the poll itself

Ah, but the "civilians" in question aren't answered, is it?...

Anwar Awlaki was an American civilian...AND I'm sure you AGREED with his killing when Obama targeted him with a drone strike...RIGHT?...

So "yes"...killing a civilian CAN be justified...(I don't like the fact that the Executive Branch gets to decide what civilians without checks and balances from Congress and/or the Judicial Branch, but that a different story altogether)...

Have Gallup ask the same people specifying "civilian" as "innocent old lady crossing the street", and you'll come up with drastically different answers ...

Ah...so, what you are doing is allowing a latitude in interpretation for Christians that you do not give Muslims?

[Coyote]

Originally Posted by cnredd

But when you were in Indonesia, you didn't blaspheme or insult Islam, did you?...

Go back and do that...Start yelling "F**k Islam!" and "There is no God!" in the middle of a crowded square, then tell me your results...Or maybe have your next of kin tell me since you won't be able to reply...

I bet you could yell "**** Islam" and "**** Christ" in the public space in the US and nothing would happen because we are a civilized culture (or at least we like to try to behave as if we were). We're a very different culture from Indonesia and that includes Muslims in America (who, interestingly, oppose violence even more than Christians)

[lackluster]

Originally Posted by Coyote

Doesn't support a consensus.

You really do need to learn the meaning of "some". A few dissenting voices means little.

Do feel free to carry on with your dishonest agenda, though.

[lackluster]

Originally Posted by rivrrat

No, I made up nothing at all. You seem to be making up your assumption that nearly 2 billion people believe that. Pretty arrogant of you to assume you know what each of nearly 2 billion people believe.

Of course you made it up because you know absolutely nothing about the subject matter.

Just because you lack the wherewithall necessary to understand the meaning of words, that does not mean I said something different than what I said.

[rivrrat]

Originally Posted by lackluster

Of course you made it up because you know absolutely nothing about the subject matter.

Just because you lack the wherewithall necessary to understand the meaning of words, that does not mean I said something different than what I said.

Gee... let's go back, shall we?

I said,

No, that's the consensus among a small minority of muslims. And no one else is "perfectly comfortable with that"

You responded with some wikipedia description of apostasy. Which really bore no relevance to what you were responding to.

Since it bore no relevance to what you were responding to, I took it to mean that you assumed all muslims believe that horse****. Which they don't.

So do you have any point at all to make that's actually relevant to ... well... anything? Or are you going to go dig up some other wikipedia entry about the price of rice in china?

[Comet]

Originally Posted by lackluster

You do not have to be a mind reader, simply intelligent, knowledgeable and perceptive enough to understand the themes so often encountered here and elsewhere.

Well said, sir.

[Coyote]

Originally Posted by lackluster

You really do need to learn the meaning of "some". A few dissenting voices means little.

Do feel free to carry on with your dishonest agenda, though.

If it were "a few dissenting voices" I'd agree but if you read the entire section it is clear that there is conflict as to what apostasy is and what it's punishment should be.

Another point of clarity: dishonest agendas (or, to be accurate - yours). Unlike any other religion, you treat Islam as if it were static and unchanging or unchangeable. That's a false premise as slowly but surely we are seeing it is anything but that. While far too many of it's followers still exist in a Medivevil cultural mindset - scholarly voices of change, are emerging and being heard and that goes hand in hand with material that exists in the Quran through different ways of interpreting it. Islam is going through it's reformation and has done that in the US and other countries. Globalism and social media opens the door.

[lackluster]

Originally Posted by rivrrat

Gee... let's go back, shall we?

I said,
You responded with some wikipedia description of apostasy. Which really bore no relevance to what you were responding to.

Of course it bore relevance, since it backed up my contention

Originally Posted by rivrrat

I took it to mean that you assumed all muslims believe that horse****. Which they don't.

I really cannot be held accountable for your lack of intelligence.

Originally Posted by rivrrat

So do you have any point at all to make that's actually relevant to ... well... anything? Or are you going to go dig up some other wikipedia entry about the price of rice in china?

Nor your intellectual dishonesty.