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Compare the post above and this one. And you can see the lies, the HATE and a total disregard of a childs life, only because she is from a christian family.

Which the Muslim Holy Book is based on. Yet I doubt any of these sick people bother to read those parts.

And at the site is more no this topic as well as other news.

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.Pakistan girl jailed, accused of blasphemy

By REBECCA SANTANA | Associated Press – 3 hrs ago. 20 August 2012 ......

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Associated Press/B.K. Bangash - People gathered outside the locked house of a Christian girl in suburbs of Islamabad, Pakistan on Monday, Aug. 20, 2012. Pakistani authorities arrested a Christian girl and are …more

ISLAMABAD (AP) — A Christian girl was sent to a Pakistani prison after being accused by her furious Muslim neighbors of burning pages of the Islamic holy book, the Quran, in violation of the country's strict blasphemy laws.

A police official said Monday there was little evidence that pages of the book had been burned and that the case would likely be dropped. But hundreds of angry neighbors gathered outside the girl's home last week demanding action in a case raising new concerns about religious extremism in this conservative Muslim country.

Some human rights officials and media reports said the girl was mentally handicapped. Police gave conflicting reports of her age as 11 and 16.

Under Pakistan's blasphemy laws, anyone found guilty of insulting Islam's Prophet Muhammad or defiling the holy book, or Quran, can face life in prison or even execution. Critics say the laws are often misused to harass non-Muslims or target individuals.

Police put the girl in jail for 14 days on Thursday after neighbors said they believed a Christian girl had burned pages of a Quran, gathering outside her house in a poor outlying district of Islamabad, said police officer Zabi Ullah. He suggested she was being held for her protection.

"About 500 to 600 people had gathered outside her house in Islamabad and they were very emotional, angry and they might have harmed her if we had not quickly reacted," Ullah said.

Almost everyone in the girl's neighborhood insisted she had burned the Quran's pages, even though police said they had found no evidence of it. One police official, Qasim Niazi, said when the girl was brought to the police station, she had a shopping bag that contained various religious and Arabic-language papers that had been partly burned, but there was no Quran.

Some residents claimed they actually saw burnt pages of Quran — either at the local mosque or at the girl's house. Few people in Pakistan actually speak or read Arabic, so often assume that anything they see with Arabic script is believed to be from the Quran, sometimes the only Arabic-language book people have seen.

But one police officer familiar with the girl's case said the matter would likely be dropped once the investigation is completed and the atmosphere is defused, saying there was "nothing much to the case." He did not want to be identified due to the sensitivity of the case.

A spokesperson for Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, Farhatullah Babar, said the president has taken "serious note" of reports of the girl's arrest and has asked the Interior Ministry to look into the case.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland called the case "deeply disturbing".

"We urge the government of Pakistan to protect not just its religious minority citizens but also women and girls," she said.

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There is plenty to read at each of these site.

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I learned one thing about Pakistan, they allow women to work. But this long story has a lot of sadness in it being told. As some of the pictures at the site show.
As when many in your poulation whats out of their towns thats a sign that others should look into. And think about it, going to Pakistan will create more HATE towards the west and many from Afghan will suffer a lot id they are from the Sunni/the other sects as time passes..

And at the Asia site there are more news on my war threads including Pakistan.

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.Thousands of Afghan refugees in limbo in Pakistan

By REBECCA SANTANA | Associated Press – 5 hrs ago. 3 August 2012 ......

Associated Press/Muhammed Muheisen - In this Tuesday, Aug. 7, 2012, Afghan refugee girl, laiba Hazrat, 5, sits on a bed next to her sleeping granfather, outside their home in a slum on the outskirts of Islamabad, …more

ISLAMABAD (AP) — Abdul Karim walked for nearly 12 hours to cross the border into Pakistan and escape the warlords who were raining rockets on his neighborhood in the Afghan capital Kabul. That was nearly two decades ago, when he was a young teenager. Since then, he's gotten married and raised six children, all born in Pakistan.

He is one of 1.7 million Afghan refugees who have been living in limbo in Pakistan for years as part of one of the world's largest and longest-running refugee crisis. But after 30 years of hosting Afghans, many Pakistanis are growing frustrated with the toll they say the refugee population is taking on their country, and pressure is mounting on the government to do something.

The Pakistani government is now weighing whether to remove their refugee status, a step that would increase the pressure on them to go home.

Most of the refugees can't fathom returning to Afghanistan any time soon. They may feel like outsiders in Pakistan, but they say their homeland is still too violent and desperately poor.

"Unless the Pakistani government forced us back to Kabul, I am in no mood to go there," said Karim. "There is no safety... We have nothing left there."

The Afghan population in Pakistan is the legacy of Afghanistan's repeated conflicts. Millions streamed across the border after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, the start of a decade-long war against the occupation. After the Soviets pulled out, the country was torn apart by fighting between warlords, and more Afghans fled. When the Taliban rose to power in 1996 their strict form of Sunni Islam further terrorized the population.

The 1.7 million Afghans registered as refugees include those who remain from those exoduses and their children born since. More than a third of them live in camps, while the rest are scattered across Pakistan. Alongside them, another roughly 1 million Afghans are believed to be living in the country illegally.

A combination of reasons keeps them from returning. There are the big concerns: Afghanistan's woeful economy, fears that its turmoil will only worsen when international forces leave at the end of 2014. And there are the equally weighty personal worries: Many parents worry their kids won't get a decent education in Afghanistan or, if they're girls, maybe no education at all.

Others like Kowki Nazari have no prospect of finding a job in Afghanistan. She fled to Pakistan after her husband was imprisoned and tortured by the Taliban. She crossed the border by donkey in the dead of night and made her way to Rawalpindi, next to Islamabad, where she now works as a house cleaner. Like many people in this neighborhood she is an ethnic Hazara, a minority group in Afghanistan. Most Hazaras are Shiite and as such have often been persecuted by Sunni extremists like the Taliban who don't consider them true Muslims.

If she returned to Afghanistan, she says her family would be destitute.

"I can't work there because it's not like Pakistan where the women are free to work," she said.

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This goes with post 361 above. The tension is still building on this case of possible (sure some are pushing it that direction) blasphemy and breaking this so important law, which has been used to get even with others sense it became law and long before then to boot.

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.Pakistan imam accuses Christian girl of 'conspiracy'

By Khurram Shahzad | AFP – 3 hrs ago. 24 August 2012 ......................

A Pakistani cleric who handed over a young Christian girl to police on blasphemy charges after she burned papers containing Koranic verses said Friday what she did was a "conspiracy" to insult Muslims.

Hafiz Mohammed Khalid Chishti, the imam of the mosque in the poor Islamabad suburb of Mehrabad, insisted he had saved the girl, Rimsha, from mob violence by handing her to police but said the incident arose because Muslims had not stopped local Christians' "anti-Islam activities" earlier.

Rimsha was arrested and remanded in custody for a fortnight last Thursday after being accused of burning pages from a children's religious instruction book, which were inscribed with verses from the Muslim holy text.

The youngster reportedly suffers from Down's Syndrome and her treatment has prompted outrage from rights groups and concern from Western governments, but Chishti insisted she was fully aware of what she was doing.

"The girl who burnt the Koran has no mental illness and is a normal girl," Chishti told AFP.

"She did it knowingly, this is a conspiracy and not a mistake. She confessed what she did."

Under the Islamic republic's strict blasphemy laws, insulting the prophet Mohammed is punishable by death and burning a sacred text by life imprisonment, though rights groups say the legislation is often abused to settle personal vendettas.

Chishti claimed the local Christian community had previously caused antagonism by playing music in services at their makeshift church during Muslim prayer time and said burning the pages was deliberate.

"They committed this crime to insult us further. This happened because we did not stop their anti-Islam activities before," he said.

"Last Christmas, they played musical instruments and there was vulgarity in the streets during our prayers time. I warned them but they did not stop."

Seems a lot of HATE has been buliding up over time on this chruch and it's Christian people. And if read it seems this one guy is behind it all.

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And now the Vatican has a few words to say.

Also at the Asia site are other news on Pakistan and other countries in the Region..

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.Christian girl held on blasphemy cannot read: Vatican

AFP – 4 hrs ago. 25 August 2012 ..............................

French Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran on Saturday went to the defence of the young Pakistani girl accused of blasphemy, stressing that she "cannot read or write."

Interviewed on Radio Vatican, Tauran, who is in charge of interfaith dialogue in the Vatican, said "that before asserting a sacred text has been the object of scorn, it is worth checking the facts."

Rimsha, aged 11 to 16 according to different reports, is accused of burning pages from a children's religious instruction book inscribed with verses from the Koran, Islam's holy book. She was arrested and remanded in custody last Thursday.

But Tauran said that Rimsha "is a girl who cannot read or write and collects garbage to live on and picked up the fragments of the book which was in the middle of the rubbish."

"The more serious and tense the situation, the more necessary it is to have dialogue," added the cardinal, who was the late pope John Paul II's foreign minister.

He also told the daily Il Sussidiario, that he believed it "impossible in the light of the facts that the girl had tried to express her scorn for the sacred book of Islam."

The youngster reportedly has Down's Syndrome and her arrest has prompted outrage from rights groups and concern from Western governments.

Under Pakistan's strict blasphemy laws, insulting the prophet Mohammed is punishable by death and burning a sacred text by life imprisonment.

Rights groups say the legislation is often abused to settle personal vendettas.

Rishma had been due to appear in court on Saturday but police and her lawyer said Friday that the hearing had been put back to August 31.
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This is not the only news out of Pakistan, read the last sentence. I t has happened again.

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.Thousands flee Waziristan in fear of military sweep

AFP – 5 hrs ago. 26 August 2012 .............................

Thousands of people have fled one of Pakistan's troubled northwestern tribal districts in recent days, fearing a military offensive against Islamist militants, locals and officials said.

Panicked residents have hastily left the area of North Waziristan despite officials repeatedly insisting that Pakistan has no immediate plan to launch an offensive in the volatile region, they added.

North Waziristan, one of Pakistan's seven tribal districts and riddled with militancy, is considered a stronghold of the Afghan Taliban and Al-Qaeda operatives.

Although Pakistan has fought Taliban militants across much of the region it has so far withstood American pressure to move against the Al-Qaeda-linked Haqqani network in North Waziristan.

"Thousands of people have so far left the area, they are fleeing their homes due to the fear and rumours of a military operation," Saif-Ur Rehman, a government official in the main town of Miranshah, told AFP.

Tasleem Khan, another government official confirmed the evacuation.

Mian Iftikhar Hussain, information minister for Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province, which borders North Waziristan, told AFP that thousands of people have reached several districts in his area.

Rumours started early this week after a spokesman for the Pakistani Taliban told local media that it had received "an exclusive intelligence report" about an offensive in North Waziristan.

In an email sent to media, Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said the campaign was to be launched on August 26 and would last one month.

Government and military officials have taken to local radio, asking people to remain calm.

"This is a peaceful area with a peaceful atmosphere. The government has no plan to launch any military operation here," a radio announcement heard by local residents said.

On Saturday, some 2000 tribal elders and religious leaders warned the government to not to launch any offensive and threatened to move to Afghanistan "in case of any military operation".

"We will migrate to Afghanistan, if Pakistan launches any military operation," Maulvi Abdur Rehman, a religious leader who presided over the tribal Jirga said.

The Jirga held in Mirali Town of North Waziristan also requested residents to stay at home.

An AFP reporter in the area witnessed people fleeing their homes in vehicles.

Washington has long demanded that Pakistan take action against the Haqqanis, whom the United States accused of attacking the US embassy in Kabul last September and of acting like the "veritable arm" of Pakistani intelligence.

Pakistan has in turn demanded that Afghan and US forces do more to stop Pakistani Taliban crossing the Afghan border to launch attacks on its forces.
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Again the difference between two sects hits hard for the families & close friends. A lot like America's gang warfare in Oakland, CA. or in any state you pick out.
Stupid and non productive.

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Gunmen kill 8 in Pakistan's troubled Baluchistan

Associated Press – 12 hrs ago.. 27 August 2012 ..................



QUETTA, Pakistan (AP) — A Pakistani official says two gunmen riding a motorcycle opened fire on a car carrying Shiite Muslims in southwestern Pakistan, killing three of them.

Senior police officer Wazir Khan Nasir says two Shiites were also wounded in Monday's attack in Quetta, the capital of southwestern Baluchistan province.

No one claimed responsibility. I have a very good idea of which sect did it.

In a separate incident late Sunday, government official Pervez Ahmed said gunmen killed five Sunni Muslims in the town of Mach in Baluchistan.

Baluchistan is the site of a long-running insurgency by rebels who want a greater share of the region's resources and more autonomy. It's also home to Islamic militants who frequently target Shiites.

Shiites make up a sizeable minority in Pakistan, but many Sunni extremists do not view them as true Muslims.
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This sums it up and shows this govt., & military of Pakistan can't or won't do much even if it is to help them take care of their own people.

Plus there are a lot more at the Asia site on Pakistan.

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.Red Cross scales back Pakistan work

AFP – 6 hrs ago. 28 August 2012 ......................

The Red Cross is scaling back its work in Pakistan, with the loss of hundreds of jobs, the aid organisation said Tuesday, following the brutal murder of a British aid worker earlier this year.

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said it was closing offices in Karachi and Quetta, the capital of impoverished and insurgency-wracked Baluchistan province, and cutting projects in Pakistan's troubled tribal northwest.

The group suspended most of its operations in Pakistan in May after the killing of ICRC health worker Khalil Dale, whose mutilated body was found outside Quetta in April, four months after he was abducted.

ICRC field operations will be reduced to offices in Islamabad, a surgical hospital in the northwestern city of Peshawar and a rehabilitation centre in Pakistan-administered Kashmir.
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There are plenty of links within this News Release. And if elected we go from the plain robbers with their corruption to what is consider a pariah. Can anyone explain the differences between the two?

I think our top brass and leaders are worried he won't play ball with us. Like the others have about bent us over and have their way.

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.Notorious Pakistan A-bomb scientist tries politics

By MUNIR AHMED | Associated Press – 3 hrs ago. 29 August 2012 .........

ISLAMABAD (AP) — The man who made Pakistan into a nuclear power and later admitted to leaking atomic secrets to Iran, North Korea and Libya is going into politics, aiming to shake up the country ahead of national elections.

That could provoke some grumbling in the United States, where Abdul Qadeer Khan is viewed as a pariah. At home, however, he is a national hero for his pivotal role in developing nuclear weapons and has been lionized by Islamists for making Pakistan the world's only Muslim nuclear power.

It's unclear whether the 76-year-old nuclear scientist will be able to translate this public adoration into political support.

The goal of Khan's new movement — Tehreek-e-Tahaffuz Pakistan, or Movement for Protection of Pakistan — is not to field candidates, but to encourage young Pakistanis to participate in upcoming elections and reject "incompetent politicians," Khan told The Associated Press during an interview Tuesday.

National elections are scheduled to take place by June 2013, although they could be called earlier.

"The leaders of most of the big political parties are robbers and corrupt," said Khan, who announced his new movement this week.

He took aim at President Asif Ali Zardari, co-leader of the ruling Pakistan People's Party, and former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, head of the main opposition party, the Pakistan Muslim League-N.

A senior politician from Sharif's party, Zafarul Haq, said the group had always tried to field honest and capable candidates. Zardari's spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment.

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Much more on Pakistan and other countries at the site below and then you have the other links.

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By SEBASTIAN ABBOT | Associated Press – 2 hrs 7 mins ago. 30 August 2012 ..

Associated Press/Mohammad Sajjad - A Pakistani army soldier arranges weapons reportedly recovered from hideouts of militants in tribal areas, as they are displayed in Peshawar, Pakistan on Wednesday, Aug. 29, …more


ISLAMABAD (AP) — Pakistani intelligence officials confirmed Thursday that a U.S. drone strike last week near the Afghan border killed the son of the founder of the powerful Haqqani militant network, a major blow to one of the most feared groups fighting American troops in Afghanistan.

Badruddin Haqqani, who has been described as the organization's day-to-day operations commander, was killed on Aug. 24 in one of three strikes that hit militant hideouts in the Shawal Valley in Pakistan's North Waziristan tribal area, said two senior intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.

The presence of the mostly Afghan Haqqani network in North Waziristan has been a major source of friction between Pakistan and the U.S. The Obama administration has repeatedly demanded Pakistan prevent the group from using its territory to launch attacks in Afghanistan, but Islamabad has refused — a stance many analysts believe is driven by the country's strong historical ties to the Haqqani network's founder, Jalaluddin Haqqani.

The Pakistani intelligence officials didn't specify which strike on Aug. 24 killed Badruddin, but said he was leaving a hideout when the U.S. missiles hit. The confirmation of his death came from their sources within the Taliban, which is allied with the Haqqani network, and agents on the ground, they said. But neither the officials nor their sources have actually seen Badruddin's body.

Pakistani intelligence officials previously said they were 90 percent sure Badruddin was killed in a drone strike in a different part of North Waziristan on Aug. 21. It's unclear what caused the discrepancy.

Afghanistan's intelligence agency said several days ago that its operatives had confirmed Badruddin's death. A senior Taliban commander has also confirmed the militant's death.

A Taliban spokesman in Afghanistan, Zabiullah Mujahid, has however rejected reports of Badruddin's death, calling them "propaganda of the enemy."

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