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This is why I say get out. The locals fear their own police, they depend on us to secure them not their Army or govt, see the last paragraph. And while our infracstrucer is crumbling and IF we ever win this war we will be spending more money on rebuilding there instead of here.

Aide says Pakistani Taliban leader killed by US

By ISHTIAQ MAHSUD and MUNIR AHMAD, Associated Press Writers Ishtiaq
1 hr 53 mins ago

DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan – Pakistan's Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud, who unleashed a fearsome campaign of suicide attacks and assassinations that made him the country's most-wanted man, was killed in a U.S. missile strike, an aide said Friday.

The U.S. put a $5 million bounty on his head in March. Increasingly, American missiles fired by unmanned drones have focused on Mehsud-related targets.

While his demise would be a major boost to Pakistani and U.S. efforts to eradicate the Taliban and al-Qaida, it won't necessarily deal a definitive blow because he has deputies who could take his place.

Already, Taliban commanders were meeting Friday in a shura, or council, in the lawless tribal area of South Waziristan to choose his successor, according to intelligence and militant officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter. It was unclear when they would reach a decision.

Considered by Pakistan to be its top internal threat, Mehsud had al-Qaida connections and was suspected in the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

Pakistani and U.S. intelligence officials said the CIA was behind the strike Wednesday that killed Mehsud. All spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

Pakistan publicly opposes the missile strikes, saying they anger local tribes and make it harder for the army to operate. Still, many analysts suspect the two countries have a secret deal allowing them.

In June, Pakistan said it was launching an operation against Mehsud in South Waziristan. But although airstrikes began, the offensive never went full-scale. In the meantime, the U.S. missile strikes continued, increasingly targeting Mehsud and raising speculation that the Pakistanis were hoping — or even coordinating with — the Americans to kill Mehsud first.
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I also read that Baitullah Mehsud's wife also perished in the attack. I don't know how involved she was in his nefarious activities, but I guess she should have realised that being his wife could only be an occupational hazard.
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I also read that Baitullah Mehsud's wife also perished in the attack. I don't know how involved she was in his nefarious activities, but I guess she should have realised that being his wife could only be an occupational hazard.
1 year ago the media would've announced her as an innocent civilian whose life was interrupted by the murderous Bush and his darth vader subserviant...

On January 20th, 2009, it looks like a lot of people decided to be terrorist hating Americans again as if turning on a switch...
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It is regretful that the man's wife died as well, although if anyone expects in a war for there to be zero innocent casualties, you're deluding yourself. At the same time, I have difficulty believing that this woman would be married to him and not have at least some knowledge of his activities.
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1 year ago the media would've announced her as an innocent civilian whose life was interrupted by the murderous Bush and his darth vader subserviant...

On January 20th, 2009, it looks like a lot of people decided to be terrorist hating Americans again as if turning on a switch...
His death would be a victory for President Barack Obama and a nod to the Bush administration, both of whom have relied heavily on the CIA-controlled missile strikes to take out militants in Pakistan's wild northwest. says Mercury News

It's a good day for us all.
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His death would be a victory for President Barack Obama and a nod to the Bush administration, both of whom have relied heavily on the CIA-controlled missile strikes to take out militants in Pakistan's wild northwest. says Mercury News

It's a good day for us all.
I'm not denying it's a good day...You'll find an overwhelming majority of conservatives that are glad Obama has continued the drone strikes (and alot of Liberals pissed at it)...

My response is to the way it's being PRESENTED to the public...

Drone strikes kill civilians...ain't no 2 ways about it...Welcome to the fog of war...

But when Bush was POTUS, that was the thrust of the articles and stories that were smothered on the frint pages of the media outlets...

Not that Bush isn't around anymore, the media has decided to redirect that thrust to another angle...
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Apparently Mehsud's successor is dead as well...

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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- A top Pakistani official says the government has information that a leading candidate to replace the Pakistani Taliban leader believed killed recently was shot dead Saturday in a gunfire exchange between supporters of senior Taliban leaders.

The Taliban denied the report.

Interior Minister Rehman Malik said either Hakeemullah Mehsud or Wali ur Rehman Mehsud -- believed to be potential successors -- died in a shootout at a meeting of senior Taliban leaders in South Waziristan.

A senior Taliban commander called the reports of clashes between top Taliban leaders and a death of a potential successor false, accusing the government of dispensing propaganda.

"They want to create some sort of rift, and they want to launch a military operation in South Waziristan and use this as a pretext for such an operation," he said.

Saturday's possible shooting came after intelligence reports that Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud was killed in a recent drone attack.

Pakistan's foreign and interior ministers said Friday the government was still waiting to conduct DNA analysis to confirm the identity of a man killed Wednesday in an unmanned aerial vehicle strike.

Taliban officials have denied reports of Mehsud's death. Malik noted that the Taliban has not offered any voice or video evidence to prove the contrary.

"That's why I have not confirmed, because I believe something to be solid," Malik said. "And a solid thing can only be possible if you have substantive material evidence."

Pakistan's ambassador to the United States, Husain Haqqani, told "The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer" on Friday that the charismatic leader's death can be confirmed only after physical evidence is processed, but he added that indications are the reports are true.

"There are a lot of pointers as a result of which most people believe that Baitullah Mehsud is, indeed, dead, and his own group has announced that," Haqqani said.

If that turns out to be the case, "then that is definitely a major advance in proving Pakistan's determination and the determination of the United States to eliminate extremists and terrorists from our region," he said.

Earlier this year, the United States issued a reward of up to $5 million "for information leading to the location, arrest, and/or conviction" of Mehsud.

The suspected U.S. drone targeted the home of Mehsud's father-in-law, Mulvi Ikram ud Din, in Pakistan's South Waziristan tribal area, an intelligence official said.

The suspected drone fired two missiles into the residence, killing Mehsud's second wife and one other person, according to intelligence sources and relatives. The U.S. military routinely offers no comment on reported drone attacks. However, the United States is the only country operating in the region known to have the ability to launch missiles from drones, which are controlled remotely.

The strike was based on "solid intel," a Pakistani official with knowledge of intelligence matters said. Since the attack, "the Mehsud network has gone quiet, as if in shock," the official said.

But the official also noted that Mehsud "has shown up alive after previous near misses." One such near miss occurred in late June at a funeral Mehsud was attending in a Pakistani tribal area. The funeral was targeted in a drone attack, but the Pakistani Taliban leader is reported to have missed being killed by a few hours.

This time, however, "there are increasingly strong indications Mehsud is, in fact, dead," according to a U.S. counterterrorism official, who was not authorized to speak on the record.

"We continue to review information as it comes in," the official said. The official said Washington is "seeking its own confirmation" of his death, adding that there may be little DNA to test in the wake of the bombing.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the Department of Defense is "aware of the reports." But he said Mehsud's death would be significant.

"Anytime a vicious Taliban leader is eliminated, it makes the environment safer," Whitman said Friday.

"This is an organization that tends to be able to regenerate another leader. These terrorist organizations tend to be decentralized in the execution of their operations. I don't want to make more of it than one should of a single individual, however, this was an important Taliban leader in Pakistan, and if he is no longer able to direct operations, that is a good thing."

Mehsud and other key leaders of the Pakistani Taliban have been targeted by the ongoing Pakistani military operation in the northwestern part of the country. Pakistani aircraft and suspected U.S. drones regularly shell hideouts linked to Mehsud.

The U.S. counterterrorism official stressed that, as leader of the Pakistani Taliban, Mehsud has "very strong ties to al Qaeda."

He is suspected of being behind numerous attacks, including the December 2007 assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

Mehsud's close aide recently confirmed that Mehsud was behind the assassination of Bhutto, who was gunned down at a political rally in Rawalpindi, Pakistan. Bhutto's widower, Asif Ali Zardari, is the current president of Pakistan.

Mehsud is also suspected of having been behind other attacks, including the targeting of U.S. soldiers in neighboring Afghanistan.

"There's no doubt he has American blood on his hands," the U.S. counterterrorism official said. "His network is responsible for numerous attacks on coalition forces in Afghanistan."

Mehsud boasted to reporters in May 2008 that he had hundreds of trained suicide bombers ready for martyrdom and was planning to use them to wage a holy war against American and NATO forces in Afghanistan.

Farahnaz Ispahani, adviser to Pakistan's president, described Mehsud as "a murderer and a monster" and said his death would be a boon to Pakistan's ongoing military operation against Taliban militants inside its borders.

"Even though people say that the Taliban can [re]group very quickly and can find another leader, actually what this has given us -- if he is dead -- is a vacuum," Ispahani said.

"When you have that vacuum and when you have the Taliban on the back foot, that is a time when we can go in and really clean up."
CNN's Peter Bergen, Carol Cratty, Samson Desta and Journalist Janullah Hashimzada contributed to this report.

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All I can say is that it doesn't seem like a good time these days to be an Islamist terrorist.
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What the hell? The United States is only 90% sure that Baitullah Meshud is dead:

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Official: Likelihood of Pakistani Taliban leader's death '90 percent'

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States believes Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud was killed in a drone attack last week, President Obama's national security adviser said Sunday.

"We think so," Gen. Jim Jones told NBC's "Meet the Press," adding, "We put it in the 90 percent [likelihood] category."

Pakistan's foreign and interior ministers said Friday the government was still waiting to conduct DNA analysis to confirm the identity of a man killed Wednesday in an unmanned aerial vehicle strike.

The suspected U.S. drone targeted the home of Mehsud's father-in-law, Mulvi Ikram ud Din, in Pakistan's South Waziristan tribal area, an intelligence official said.

Taliban officials have denied reports of Mehsud's death.

Speaking to "Fox News Sunday" about reports that Mehsud was killed, Jones said, "All evidence that we have suggests that," but he emphasized that the United States cannot be sure. Watch what Mehsud's death would mean for anti-terror effort.

If Mehsud was killed, it means that U.S. cooperation with Pakistan is "having a good effect and that we're moving in the right direction," Jones said. "Mehsud was a very bad individual, a real thug responsible for a lot of violence, a lot of innocent people losing their lives."

A top Pakistani official said the government has information that a leading candidate to replace Mehsud was killed in a gunfire exchange Saturday between supporters of senior Taliban leaders.

Jones said the United States does not know if that is accurate.

But, he added, "if there is dissension within the ranks ... this is a positive indication that in Pakistan things are turning for the better."
If the US is 90% sure he's dead, what's the other 10%?

Considering that it also seems that Noordin Mohammed Top, mastermind of various terrorist attacks including the 2002 Bali bombing, 2003 JW Marriott Hotel Bombing in Jakarta, the 2004 Australian embassy bombing in Jakarta, the 2005 Bali bombings and the 2009 JW Marriott - Ritz Carlton bombings, has eluded capture again, it really looks like we need to double check before rushing to celebrate the demise of these people.
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Another report with other evidence of the Pakistani Taliban leader's death...
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Evidently, two Taliban potential successors got into an argument and a gun fight over who would succeed the previous leader.
Reportedly, killing each other...
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