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On the afternoon of November 8, 2016, Kellyanne Conway settled into her glass office at Trump Tower. Right up until the last weeks of the race, the campaign headquarters had remained a listless place. All that seemed to distinguish it from a corporate back office were a few posters with right-wing slogans.
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Conway, the campaign’s manager, was in a remarkably buoyant mood, considering she was about to experience a resounding, if not cataclysmic, defeat. Donald Trump would lose the election — of this she was sure — but he would quite possibly hold the defeat to under six points. That was a substantial victory. As for the looming defeat itself, she shrugged it off: It was Reince Priebus’s fault, not hers.
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She had spent a good part of the day calling friends and allies in the political world and blaming Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee. Now she briefed some of the television producers and anchors whom she had been carefully courting since joining the Trump campaign — and with whom she had been actively interviewing in the last few weeks, hoping to land a permanent on-air job after the election.
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Even though the numbers in a few key states had appeared to be changing to Trump’s advantage, neither Conway nor Trump himself nor his son-in-law, Jared Kushner — the effective head of the campaign — *wavered in their certainty: Their unexpected adventure would soon be over. Not only would Trump not be president, almost everyone in the campaign agreed, he should probably not be. Conveniently, the former conviction meant nobody had to deal with the latter issue.
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As the campaign came to an end, Trump himself was sanguine. His ultimate goal, after all, had never been to win. “I can be the most famous man in the world,” he had told his aide Sam Nunberg at the outset of the race. His longtime friend Roger Ailes, the former head of Fox News, liked to say that if you want a career in television, first run for president. Now Trump, encouraged by Ailes, was floating rumors about a Trump network. It was a great future. He would come out of this campaign, Trump assured Ailes, with a far more powerful brand and untold opportunities.
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“This is bigger than I ever dreamed of,” he told Ailes a week before the election. “I don’t think about losing, because it isn’t losing. We’ve totally won.”
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From the start, the leitmotif for Trump about his own campaign was how crappy it was, and how everybody involved in it was a loser. In August, when he was trailing Hillary Clinton by more than 12 points, he couldn’t conjure even a far-fetched scenario for achieving an electoral victory. He was baffled when the right-wing billionaire Robert Mercer, a Ted Cruz backer whom Trump barely knew, offered him an infusion of $5 million. When Mercer and his daughter Rebekah presented their plan to take over the campaign and install their lieutenants, Steve Bannon and Conway, Trump didn’t resist. He only expressed vast incomprehension about why anyone would want to do that. “This thing,” he told the Mercers, “is so ****ed up.”
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Bannon, who became chief executive of Trump’s team in mid-August, called it “the broke-dick campaign.” Almost immediately, he saw that it was hampered by an even deeper structural flaw: The candidate who billed himself as a billionaire — ten times over — refused to invest his own money in it. Bannon told Kushner that, after the first debate in September, they would need another $50 million to cover them until Election Day.
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“No way we’ll get 50 million unless we can guarantee him victory,” said a clear-eyed Kushner.
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“Twenty-five million?” prodded Bannon.
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“If we can say victory is more than likely.”
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In the end, the best Trump would do is to loan the campaign $10 million, provided he got it back as soon as they could raise other money. Steve Mnuchin, the campaign’s finance chairman, came to collect the loan with the wire instructions ready to go so Trump couldn’t conveniently forget to send the money.
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Most presidential candidates spend their entire careers, if not their lives from adolescence, preparing for the role. They rise up the ladder of elected offices, perfect a public face, and prepare themselves to win and to govern. The Trump calculation, quite a conscious one, was different. The candidate and his top lieutenants believed they could get all the benefits of almost becoming president without having to change their behavior or their worldview one whit. Almost everybody on the Trump team, in fact, came with the kind of messy conflicts bound to bite a president once he was in office. Michael Flynn, the retired general who served as Trump’s opening act at campaign rallies, had been told by his friends that it had not been a good idea to take $45,000 from the Russians for a speech.
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“Well, it would only be a problem if we won,” Flynn assured them.
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If this is ever proved true, Kudos to Cenk Uygur for figuring it out about a year ago.
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I've said it before, Trump didn't expect to win. I'm not even sure that he expected to get as far as he did.

While he lacks the polish of most politicians, says some really stupid things, I think he may have gotten over the initial shock of the election, and is trying to make it worth something.

Only time will tell if he has actually done things right. Of course, there are some that don't care if he does anything right - they will always view him as a failure, because that is what they want him to be.
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I've said it before, Trump didn't expect to win. I'm not even sure that he expected to get as far as he did.

While he lacks the polish of most politicians, says some really stupid things, I think he may have gotten over the initial shock of the election, and is trying to make it worth something.

Only time will tell if he has actually done things right. Of course, there are some that don't care if he does anything right - they will always view him as a failure, because that is what they want him to be.
just as there are those who will always view him as their savior even if he ruins the country.
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just as there are those who will always view him as their savior even if he ruins the country.
I don't think anyone views him as a 'savior'. While there are some who do the rah-rah, most view him as something different than the same-ol-same-ol. I'll sit back and watch, and tally the results in the end.
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If this is ever proved true, Kudos to Cenk Uygur for figuring it out about a year ago.
If this is ever proved true. There you have it, just like the phony Russian collusion story this steaming pile of spin and speculation is accepted whole without question. Who needs proof when it confirms the Resistance gospel.

Nice of you to note where the author of the book copied his idea from. No doubt the rest of what amounts to an extended gossip column was copied from from the rantings of Left wing half wits as well.
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If this is ever proved true. There you have it, just like the phony Russian collusion story this steaming pile of spin and speculation is accepted whole without question. Who needs proof when it confirms the Resistance gospel.

Nice of you to note where the author of the book copied his idea from. No doubt the rest of what amounts to an extended gossip column was copied from from the rantings of Left wing half wits as well.
So let me get this straight. The left is saying that Trump colluded with Russians to win the election? But he didn't want to be President? Wow! that's weird even from the left.
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I don't think anyone views him as a 'savior'. While there are some who do the rah-rah, most view him as something different than the same-ol-same-ol. I'll sit back and watch, and tally the results in the end.
That is how we viewed Reagan.
As I said before if not for Reagan I might have voted for Trump but once burned twice shy.
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So let me get this straight. The left is saying that Trump colluded with Russians to win the election? But he didn't want to be President? Wow! that's weird even from the left.
the theory is he didn't think he had a cats chance but wanted to make a good showing; come within 6 points.
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