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History, Geography, & Military Discuss Becoming A Racist: The Unfortunate Side Effect Of Serving Your Country? at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by Mikeyy This is the problem with the right. Nobody says that pride in America makes you a ...

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Old 08-27-2017, 04:21 PM
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This is the problem with the right. Nobody says that pride in America makes you a racist. People who support the confederacy are secessionists which IS the definition of anti American. Loving your country means wanting to see us live up to our better nature. That means we are not perfect and can be better. If you don't think so you are the ones holding America back. You can't just claim moral leadership. You earn it. When children at the border are running from terror in their country you don't turn your back. Just one example. The Americans I respect are not the "I got mine you get your own" types that you defend. The Americans I respect are those working on making all of our lives better. Not supporting thin skinned whiny bitches like Trump who would have made George Washington embarrassed. Supporting an ass that embarrasses our country around the world isn't making us a great country. It's making us a mocked country that deserves the mocking. Don't tell me about my country when you do all you can to make us look petty and disrespectful. My son fought for this country. My dad and uncles fought for this country. My family member signed the declaration of independence. My family came to this continent in 1633. And ya know what? I don't have anymore claim to citizenship than anyone who became a citizen yesterday. I like it that way. I like that we don't have to prove our love of country with lapel pins and pledges of allegiance. I hate what the right is doing to this country and I will fight it everyday of my life. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Much of my family was already here in 1633. It wasn't the USA then. That came later at the expense of much blood and treasure. Something which has nothing to do with pins or saying the Pledge of Allegiance. Which doesn't prove anything.

It comes down to this,,,;

It wasn't the "right" insulting and assaulting our servicemen when they came home from 'Nam.

It is not the right doing it to them now. I too hate what is happening to our country. But though racism existed(as it always will), it was in the closet where it belongs until just 10 years ago. The right did not bring it out.

People like you did by insisting any who disagreed with you were racist.
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FrancSevin;904804]Much of my family was already here in 1633. It wasn't the USA then. That came later at the expense of much blood and treasure.
Which my family supported and endured at direct risk to their lives.
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. Something which has nothing to do with pins or saying the Pledge of Allegiance. Which doesn't prove anything.
You were the one who said being a proud American makes you a racist in the lefts eyes. That was a BS statement. You also claimed that questioning our country makes you less of a patriot when it in fact makes you even more of an American.

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It comes down to this,,,;

It wasn't the "right" insulting and assaulting our servicemen when they came home from 'Nam.
It was people who were doing the wrong thing. It wasn't "The Left" it was some misguided people. I was against the VN war and I said so. But the funny thing is the people you support opted out with excuses like bone spurs and anal warts. These same people are the ones who now parade with their chests out acting super patriotic. War sucks whether justified or not and nobody should enter into it lightly.

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It is not the right doing it to them now. I too hate what is happening to our country. But though racism existed(as it always will), it was in the closet where it belongs until just 10 years ago. The right did not bring it out.
Actually they did with the election of Obama. Trying to make sure he wasn't successful was the game plan of the right. The fuqing admitted it. They said they were going to oppose any and everything he tried and they did.
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People like you did by insisting any who disagreed with you were racist.
You supported a birther so you supported a racist.
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Just for the record, I think military service makes one less racist.
Agreed. We also forget the racism against Jews, Italian, Irish Puerto Ricans and such. WWII definitely blended the cultures and races of our country. It was Truman who desegregated the military in the fifties. Which then culturally supported the desegregation of our public facilities and schools. And ultimately brought about the civil rights movement and legislation of the 60's. All along with a new understanding of what it meant to be American. Without a disparaging reference to one's ancestors.

Some of us were there to witness these wonderful changes to our society and our nation. Nothing is instant. Nothing good comes without struggle. And nothing permanent comes without time. The last vestige's of repressive racism were about gone, and the terms Spic, Graseball, Kike, and Nigger were hidden from our children and seldom if ever spoken casually in public. The healing was almost accomplished when suddenly, Americans heard a few politicians suggest. "we need to have a talk about race."

Akin to ripping the bounded wounds before all was healed. And then poking it with a dirty stick to see if the evil was gone. Sadly all we have of Dr. M King is his words and a memory against the daily onslaught of violence, hate from the talking heads, and slander from those who were never there when systematic racism was real.

It is not enough.
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