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Well it is about time Bergdahl, was tried. Which appears to be soon. His choice is wise. One military officer vs., Five, all West Pointers.

This ash wipe is still breathing? Back when command held honor as a value each trooper was required to maintain he would have been tried, found guilty and shoot well before now. But that was very long ago.

This is what comes from have a commander in chief with liberal tendencies, I guess.
I have to think this case has dragged on so long it has already been decided. In today's world we have a lot of people mess up. So the Military might not want to be that harsh to avoid losing recruits. So Bergdahl might get off lightly..


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JONATHAN DREW,Associated Press 2 hours 39 minutes ago

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has decided be to tried by a judge — not a military jury — on charges that he endangered comrades by walking off his post in Afghanistan.

Bergdahl's lawyers told the court in a brief filing last week that their client chose trial by judge alone, rather than a panel of officers. He faces charges of desertion and misbehavior before the enemy at his trial scheduled for late October at Fort Bragg. The latter carries a maximum sentence of life in prison.

Defense attorneys declined to comment on the decision. But they previously questioned whether Bergdahl could get a fair trial by jury because of negative comments President Donald Trump made on the campaign trail.

Earlier this year the judge, Army Col. Jeffery R. Nance rejected a defense request to dismiss the case over Trump's criticism of Bergdahl.

Potential jurors had already received a questionnaire including questions about their commander in chief, but defense attorneys weren't allowed to ask jurors if they voted for Trump.

Rachel VanLandingham, a former Air Force lawyer not involved in the case, said defense attorneys likely felt limited in how they could probe juror opinions.

"They lost their ability to ask all the questions they wanted to ask, one of those being: 'Did you vote for President Trump?'" said VanLandingham, who teaches at Southwestern Law School in Los Angeles. "They felt that was very important ... for fleshing out whether a panel member could be fair."

Beyond concerns about jurors, she said Nance has so far demonstrated his objectivity.

"His pretrial rulings have shown that he's fair," she said.

Bergdahl was captured by the Taliban shortly after he left his remote post in 2009. The soldier from Idaho has said he intended to cause alarm and draw attention to what he saw as problems with his unit.

He was freed from captivity in 2014 in exchange for five Taliban prisoners. Former President Barack Obama was criticized by Republicans who claimed the trade jeopardized the nation's security.

Bergdahl has been assigned to desk duty at a Texas Army base pending the outcome of his case.
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Well it is about time Bergdahl, was tried. Which appears to be soon. His choice is wise. One military officer vs., Five, all West Pointers.

This ash wipe is still breathing? Back when command held honor as a value each trooper was required to maintain he would have been tried, found guilty and shoot well before now. But that was very long ago.

This is what comes from have a commander in chief with liberal tendencies, I guess.
I have to think this case has dragged on so long it has already been decided. In today's world we have a lot of people mess up. So the Military might not want to be that harsh to avoid losing recruits. So Bergdahl might get off lightly..




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his mom and dad did the work to get him out and conservatives used his being there against Obama who was a great president and perfect compared to the heir azz ole' we got now.
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judge trial maybe a good decision but idk
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his mom and dad did the work to get him out and conservatives used his being there against Obama who was a great president and perfect compared to the heir azz ole' we got now.
What BS.

His parents petitioned Obama but it was PRESIDENT OBAMA who made the illegitimate deal of three (Correction 5 Thanks mlurp) high value detainees for one AWOL traitor. Conservatives attacked President Obama for that violation of trust.

Make the comparison fairly against the proper yardstick and please stop the equivocations between Obama and Trump. They are at most subjective and at worse biased.,,,,; Therefore meaningless.
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What BS.

His parents petitioned Obama but it was PRESIDENT OBAMA who made the illegitimate deal of three high value detainees for one AWOL traitor. Conservatives attacked President Obama for that violation of trust.

Make the comparison fairly against the proper yardstick and please stop the equivocations between Obama and Trump. They are at most subjective and at worse biased.,,,,; Therefore meaningless.


Correction 5 high valued detainees.

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At the very least, Bergdahl "allowed" himself to be captured by the enemy. Putting his comrades in arms at risk.

A jury of his peers, (5 West Point Grads) would likely put him away (or in a box with a lead filled medal for his service). A judge will rule on points of the law.

Malleable Justice.

The right judge and he has a chance to serve lunch a Leavenworth. The wrong judge and he can work at Arby's. Depending of course on your point of view.

Neither of these outcomes makes President Obama a good President.
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I have no problem with Obama trading 5 to get him back, he is one of our military personnel and is until he is tried. I also think he should be fairly tried by courts-martial and if convicted given the maximum sentence. With the possible exception of head trauma or something I cannot think of anything that justifies or mitigates desertion in combat. By the way you don't get a jury of your peers in the military, it will be NCO's and Officers probably. and it aint even a jury. The members are appointed by the convening authority. The judge too is a military officer. Obama handled Berghdal appropriately according to the UCMJ, in my opinion. But since it was Obama...

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At the very least, Bergdahl "allowed" himself to be captured by the enemy. Putting his comrades in arms at risk.

A jury of his peers, (5 West Point Grads) would likely put him away (or in a box with a lead filled medal for his service). A judge will rule on points of the law.

Malleable Justice.

The right judge and he has a chance to serve lunch a Leavenworth. The wrong judge and he can work at Arby's. Depending of course on your point of view.

Neither of these outcomes makes President Obama a good President.
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I have no problem with Obama trading 5 to get him back, he is one of our military personnel and is until he is tried. I also think he should be fairly tried by courts-martial and if convicted given the maximum sentence. With the possible exception of head trauma or something I cannot think of anything that justifies or mitigates desertion in combat. By the way you don't get a jury of your peers in the military, it will be NCO's and Officers probably. and it aint even a jury. The members are appointed by the convening authority. The judge too is a military officer. Obama handled Berghdal appropriately according to the UCMJ, in my opinion. But since it was Obama...
Well, I'm happy for you. The negotiating skills of the Kenyan do not match the bargaining prowess for which Arab Traders are known. So excuse my disappointment at the one skill he could have accomplished to an end I would appreciate.

Obama did give the approval to shoot the Somalian Pirates. And he did co-ordinate in prime time, the final assassination of OBL. But these were not hard choices, and certainly not Brave ones. They were right and proper for the office in which he held the power.

And they comprise the list of things he did for which I find "No Problem".
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Birthers are amusing.
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Well, I'm happy for you. The negotiating skills of the Kenyan do not match the bargaining prowess for which Arab Traders are known. So excuse my disappointment at the one skill he could have accomplished to an end I would appreciate.

Obama did give the approval to shoot the Somalian Pirates. And he did co-ordinate in prime time, the final assassination of OBL. But these were not hard choices, and certainly not Brave ones. They were right and proper for the office in which he held the power.

And they comprise the list of things he did for which I find "No Problem".
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Birthers are amusing.
Your insults aside, ,,; Like I said, I'm happy for ya.
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