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My dad fought in Italy and was wounded on Mt. Battaglia, I have been researching for the story I am writing and came across the battle field narrative. During this battle which lasted less than 2 weeks my dads infantry regiment, 350th reg. which was part of the 88th infantry division, fired over 1 million rifle rounds and threw over 6,000 hand grenades at the Germans during this one battle. Not to mention the 1,000's of artillery and mortar rounds. I thought this was extraordinary and wanted to share. It makes all the war movies from Hollywood pale in comparison. This battle became the lesson plan for Infantry officers at Ft. Benning GA after the war.
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Where can I find the lesson plan? Is there a movie about the battle?
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Where can I find the lesson plan? Is there a movie about the battle?
I can email you a copy. It is called the Advanced Infantry Officers Course 1949-1950 Really interesting. It describes the battle as it was happening.
It gave me goose bumps thinking about my dad while I was reading it.

I have also found other minute by minute battlefield narratives that were declassified around 2001.

I wish there was a movie about the 88th inf. and the Italian campaign.
The 88th infantry was made up of all draftees, mostly Midwest farm boys, and factory workers. The Germans underestimated them and were crushed in every battle. In many of the battles, the Germans had 2 divisions against the 88th inf div. and still got their asses handed to them.

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My dad fought in Italy and was wounded on Mt. Battaglia, I have been researching for the story I am writing and came across the battle field narrative. During this battle which lasted less than 2 weeks my dads infantry regiment, 350th reg. which was part of the 88th infantry division, fired over 1 million rifle rounds and threw over 6,000 hand grenades at the Germans during this one battle. Not to mention the 1,000's of artillery and mortar rounds. I thought this was extraordinary and wanted to share. It makes all the war movies from Hollywood pale in comparison. This battle became the lesson plan for Infantry officers at Ft. Benning GA after the war.
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I received 2 scrap books after dad passed away, filled with every letter he wrote to his mom. Also pictures, and Military documents. I knew he had a purple heart, but I didn't know about the two bronze stars until I received the Military documents. The only memento I have is a grenade pin that was stuck in the lining of his field jacket that he brought home. I wish I had the field jacket, I think he threw it away.
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to your father and the many other combat veterans who fought in WWII.

If this battle is used s an teaching aid at West Point or other General Staff Schools it is because how the battle plan was followed, IE: much of the action was following the main battle plans set forth.

As the leadership thought ahead and viewed the actions before they were engaged. How well this was applied..

How each smaller unit was used to engage the enemy, how indirect firing from many location was used to defeat the enemy during this 2 week battle. And how it was used to stop supplies from making it to the enemy front.

Also included would be Fighter and Bomber Air Support, if it was used.

Because the Brits had the main enemy secure line broken our side knew plenty on each enemy position, weapons and manpower, This gave our commanders in the field a heads up many times. Yet each battle plan could still fail.

So this battle was well planned and carried out down to the platoons of many company's.

It is nice when plans go well, as less manpower is lost....
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to your father and the many other combat veterans who fought in WWII.

If this battle is used s an teaching aid at West Point or other General Staff Schools it is because how the battle plan was followed, IE: much of the action was following the main battle plans set forth.

As the leadership thought ahead and viewed the actions before they were engaged. How well this was applied..

How each smaller unit was used to engage the enemy, how indirect firing from many location was used to defeat the enemy during this 2 week battle. And how it was used to stop supplies from making it to the enemy front.

Also included would be Fighter and Bomber Air Support, if it was used.

Because the Brits had the main enemy secure line broken our side knew plenty on each enemy position, weapons and manpower, This gave our commanders in the field a heads up many times. Yet each battle plan could still fail.

So this battle was well planned and carried out down to the platoons of many company's.

It is nice when plans go well, as less manpower is lost....
Yes they did say that aircraft would have helped. Bombers, fighters and surveillance. Heavy clouds and rain were present almost the entire time. Mules and men were used to supply ammo along one narrow trail, then used to help haul away the dead and wounded.
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I received a book from Valerio Calderoni sent from Italy. He wrote the book Mt. Battaglia 1944. we have become facebook and email friends. He sent me 4 30.06 shell casing from the battlefield, could be from my dads rifle, most likely not, but could be. I'm planning on going to Italy to meet him and tour the route the 88th infantry followed.
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My dad was that mountain also, as a medic, G-company 350th. Would it be possible for you to send me that information also, it would help me out tremendously. Thank you !!!
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My dad was that mountain also, as a medic, G-company 350th. Would it be possible for you to send me that information also, it would help me out tremendously. Thank you !!!
Hi Duman, I have names on a bunch of pictures that I have, I'm hoping to send them to family members, if I come across them. Check out the 88th Inf website for Mt. Mestas. Named after Felix Mestas who was part of the 350th and received the CMH. If you PM me I will email the story I wrote based on his letters, research, books, and stories I pried out of my dad.

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