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Here is a very good look at the top 3 Military and their 4 main battle weapons are at today.


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Mar. 31, 2016, 11:03 AM

With the rhetoric about global trade deficits heating up on the campaign trail, it might appropriate to momentarily shift our focus away from the asymmetric threats of the Taliban and ISIS and look at the world of conventional warfare.

Hereís how the worldís three most powerful militaries stack up in 4 major categories:

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1. Stealth fighters

While America holds the current stealth jet lead with the only fielded fifth-generation fighter, Russia and China are both gunning for it.

There are only 187 F-22s, and the F-35 that is supposed to be joining them is running into all sorts of problems in the test phase, including the hi-tech helmet that is supposed to put all kinds of info in the pilotís visor that doesnít work right yet.

Meanwhile, China is developing four stealth fighters.

The J-31 debuted in air shows in 2014 and is the most advanced current threat, and the J-20, which may have just entered full-scale production, is probably a match for the F-35 if not the F-22.

The two newest designs, the J-23 and J-25, are mostly rumors and Chinese propaganda right now.

Russia is developing only one stealth fighter but it has capabilities that some put on par with the F-22.

The T-50 will likely enter service in late 2016 or early 2017. Also known as the PAK FA, itís less stealthy than the Raptor but more maneuverable. The F-22 would likely get a jump on the Russians in a war, but would be in serious trouble if it was spotted first.

Likely winner: As long as the other planes are still more hypothetical than real, the F-22 remains the clear victor.

Still, Raptor drivers canít rest easy knowing that multiple aircraft are being developed with the primary mission of bringing them down, and those planes are being developed with engineers who have the F-22ís schematics.

2. Tanks

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Who has the best use of his firepower will win the war.
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Who has the best use of his firepower will win the war.
Not necessarily...

No matter how much FIREpower we have, WILLpower is just as important...

Look at Vietnam...Won every battle and still lost the war...
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Here is a very good look at the top 3 Military and their 4 main battle weapons are at today.

Who would win if Russia, China, and America went to war? - Business Insider
It's actually much easier to evaluate assuming conventional war and not a nuclear war.

Russia and China do not have military bases or significant military assets in North or South America while the US has both military and significant military assets in both Asia and Europe.

Russia and China do not have the naval assets to establish military bases or move military assets to North or South America while the US has 11 (or 12) major carrier groups that can move military assets to Asia and Europe as well as providing offensive operations from the sea.

Basically the US can attack China and Russia while Russia and China are incapable of waging an offensive war against the United States. That doesn't imply the US could win a ground war against Russia or China in their own countries but it does establish that Russia and China can't even begin to wage a ground war against the United States.
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Not necessarily...

No matter how much FIREpower we have, WILLpower is just as important...

Look at Vietnam...Won every battle and still lost the war...
A foreign army of occupation cannot defeat an indigenous military force that's willing to fight forever against it. Vietnam was a no-win situation for the US military because the Vietnamese had already demonstrated that they were willing to fight forever to expel any foreign military of occupation from their country. The Russians faced the same problem in Afghanistan and they were eventually forced to withdraw.

No matter how strong your military is it can't defeat an indigenous military force that's willing to fight forever.


That's the problem the US faces in Afghanistan today. The Taliban is willing to fight forever to rid Afghanistan of the US military force of occupation. We can't win there and I don't know what deranged logic keeps our troops in Afghanistan today.
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Not necessarily...

No matter how much FIREpower we have, WILLpower is just as important...

Look at Vietnam...Won every battle and still lost the war...
Seems to me Vietnam is not an example of the best use of our firepower then. Eh?
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A foreign army of occupation cannot defeat an indigenous military force that's willing to fight forever against it.
That's why the Axis was defeated then? It was not willing to fight forever?
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