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Old 04-05-2016, 04:27 AM
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It's actually much easier to evaluate assuming conventional war and not a nuclear war.

Russia and China do not have military bases or significant military assets in North or South America
while the US has both military and significant military assets in both Asia and Europe.

Russia and China do not have the naval assets to establish military bases or move military assets to North or South America while the US has 11 (or 12) major carrier groups that can move military assets to Asia and Europe as well as providing offensive operations from the sea.

Basically the US can attack China and Russia while Russia and China are incapable of waging an offensive war against the United States. That doesn't imply the US could win a ground war against Russia or China in their own countries but it does establish that Russia and China can't even begin to wage a ground war against the United States.
I will wager you haven't kept up with the ongoing military news as well as the political happenings on either Russia or China.

As both have many friends in S. America or at least Russia has. And the agreed trade papers allow for usage of all Military bases as well as making new ones if the need arises.

Both countries have and are adding to their Deep water naval fleet. And Russia has used it smaller but very effective missile destroyers in Syria and the middle east recently.

If you care to read up on both countries newer and improved military hardware I have posted a few items in this and the International topic area. And others can be found online if you bother to do a quick search.


Which places this debate on the trash heap till you adjust your wild thoughts and come abreast and update them...
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I will wager you haven't kept up with the ongoing military news as well as the political happenings on either Russia or China.

As both have many friends in S. America or at least Russia has. And the agreed trade papers allow for usage of all Military bases as well as making new ones if the need arises.

Both countries have and are adding to their Deep water naval fleet. And Russia has used it smaller but very effective missile destroyers in Syria and the middle east recently.

If you care to read up on both countries newer and improved military hardware I have posted a few items in this and the International topic area. And others can be found online if you bother to do a quick search.


Which places this debate on the trash heap till you adjust your wild thoughts and come abreast and update them...
I'm very much aware of these potential military bases but they don't currently have any significant military assets in either manpower or equipment and the only way they could pragmatically be supplied is by sea and the US carrier task forces prevent logistical supply. Russia and China are incapable of even taking on one US task force and we could easily deploy four carrier task forces to each to just the Atlantic and Pacific to block any logistical transfer of manpower and equipment.

Submarine and air carrier logistical supply simply doesn't move the massive amount of manpower or materials necessary to wage a war and both would be subject to US attacks by our carrier task forces.

Always remember that a conventional war can only really be won by troops on the ground and the US can prevent any significant number of troops from reaching the Americas from China or Russia. The Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, because of our carrier task forces that neither Russia or China have, are the great barrier protecting us from both Russia and China.
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I'm very much aware of these potential military bases but they don't currently have any significant military assets in either manpower or equipment and the only way they could pragmatically be supplied is by sea and the US carrier task forces prevent logistical supply. Russia and China are incapable of even taking on one US task force and we could easily deploy four carrier task forces to each to just the Atlantic and Pacific to block any logistical transfer of manpower and equipment.

Submarine and air carrier logistical supply simply doesn't move the massive amount of manpower or materials necessary to wage a war and both would be subject to US attacks by our carrier task forces.

Always remember that a conventional war can only really be won by troops on the ground and the US can prevent any significant number of troops from reaching the Americas from China or Russia. The Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, because of our carrier task forces that neither Russia or China have, are the great barrier protecting us from both Russia and China.

And of course you are aware that Obama has limited for many years (and before him a "R" also did the same in some areas of our military spending) our Military Budget in areas of newer Subs, the Rapture as well as the newer Joint Strike Fighter, as most military spending went to the live action wars being fought at the time.

The Abrams tank got newer unfits. as did the Infantry men equipment and plenty went to the Special warfare teams, etc., etc.

Look man you can't just ignore all I say and keep presenting your own opinions over and over. It does get to be a bit boorish.

As what I have said is fact... So read it and give it some damn thought or I will stop playing your games.
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