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Well, I agree on one thing: Integration will be pursued at a cost of combat effectiveness. It is already at that stage anyway.
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Well, I agree on one thing: Integration will be pursued at a cost of combat effectiveness. It is already at that stage anyway.
my gripe is the changing dynamics of an already messed up society
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my gripe is the changing dynamics of an already messed up society
The Kurdish ladies appear to be good fighters and fearless. There's a rumor that ISIS fighters believe that they won't go to paradise if killed by a woman.
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The Kurdish ladies appear to be good fighters and fearless. There's a rumor that ISIS fighters believe that they won't go to paradise if killed by a woman.
well that's a highlight
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I am inclined to feel about the same. With what any solider faces with being captured by today's enemy [extremist] I would prefer females not be subjected to front line positions as in Iraq during that war.

Yet IS is very different and abusive to their own Muslim women.
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Women not applying for Navy Seals or Green Berets...

A Year In, No Female SEAL Applicants, Few for SpecOps
Feb 15, 2017 | It has been more than 12 months since training pipelines for previously closed elite special operator jobs opened to women.
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A little more than 12 months after training pipelines for previously closed elite special operator jobs opened to women, the U.S. military has yet to see its first female Navy SEAL or Green Beret. The component commanders for each of the service special operations commands say they're ready to integrate female operators into their units, but it's not yet clear when they'll have the opportunity to do so. The Navy is closely monitoring the interest of female applicants. In fact, Naval Special Warfare Command is eyeing one Reserve Officer Training Corps member who's interested in the SEALs, and another woman who has yet to enter the service but has expressed interest in becoming a special warfare combatant craft crewman, a community even smaller than the SEALs with a training pipeline nearly as rigorous.

But it will likely be years until the Navy has a woman in one of these elite units. Rear Adm. Tim Szymanski, head of Naval Special Warfare Command, which includes the elite SEALs and other Navy special operations units, noted that the enlisted training pipeline for SEALs is two-and-a-half years from start to end, meaning a female applicant who began the process now wouldn't join a team until nearly 2020. And that assumes that she makes it through the infamously grueling Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL training. "Just last week, we secured Hell Week ... [we started with] 165 folks. We finished with 29. It's a tough pipeline and that is not uncommon," Szymanski told an audience at the National Defense Industrial Association's Special Operations/Low Intensity Conflict conference near Washington, D.C., on Tuesday. "Five classes a year, and that's what you have, demographically."


Soldiers negotiate obstacles during the Cultural Support Assessment and Selection program.

While the Army Rangers famously had three female officers earn their tabs in 2015 in a special program ahead of the December 2015 Defense Department mandate that actually gave women the right to serve in the Rangers, the elite regiment remains male-only, at least for now. To date, one female officer in a support military occupational specialty has completed the training process and will likely join the unit by the end of March, said Lt. Gen. Kenneth Tovo, commander of Army Special Operations Command. In other previously closed Army special operations elements, he said, two enlisted women have attempted special operations assessment and selection but haven't made it through. One, who was dropped due to injury and not to failure to meet standards, is likely to reattempt the process, Tovo said.

Two female officers are also expected to begin assessment and selection in the "near future," he said. "So we're going slow," Tovo said. "The day we got the word that SF and rangers were available to women, our recruiting battalion that actually works for recruit command sent an email to every eligible woman, notifying them of the opportunity and soliciting their volunteerism. We are working things across the force through special ops recruiting battalion to talk to women and get them interested." Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command was the first service to report publicly that it had women in its training pipeline. But in a year, MARSOC has had just three applicants, and none who made it through the first phase of assessment and selection, commander Maj. Gen. Carl Mundy III said at the conference. Currently, he added, there are no women in training, and none on deck to enter the pipeline.

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I saw a article on some woman who did enter SEAL training. I will do a search.

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Female Marine Trailblazer Graduates From Infantry School
March 23, 2017 — Marine Pfc. Maria Daume's life story reads as if she came straight from the pages of a superhero comic.
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Born in a Siberian prison. Orphaned at age 2. Adopted by Americans at age 4 and raised in New York. And now, she's just done what many naysayers believed a woman would never do: She's the first female Marine to join the infantry through the traditional entry-level training process, a process made available to women just a half-year earlier. “I like to prove people wrong,” Daume told VOA in her first interview since completing her training at the Marine Corps School of Infantry at Camp Lejuene, North Carolina. “No matter what your belief is, you can't argue that I didn't do it, because I did.”

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Not only did she graduate from the School of Infantry on Thursday, she completed what Infantry Marines argue is one of the most difficult military operational specialties the school has to offer, at a time when instructors say the standards have become “even harder.” As a Mortar Marine, she and her peers represent the most rapid response to indirect fire for an infantry unit. And to pass the training required to become one, she and her peers scaled a 142-cm-high (56 inches) wall in full gear within 30 seconds, lifted a 36-kg (about 80 pounds) MK19 heavy machine gun above their heads, evacuated a 97-kg (214 pounds) casualty within 54 seconds while wearing a fighting load, and passed various knowledge skill tests and gun drills.


Maria Daume watches her mother, Maureen Daume, become emotional after Maria's graduation from the Marine Corps School of Infantry, March 23, 2017, in Camp Lejeune, N.C.

She also had to hike 20 km (over 12 miles) while carrying a 60 mm mortar system with four simulated rounds.That cold night was the moment she knew that she had made the cut to be a Mortar Marine. “I went to sleep that night and I'm lying in my rack, and I'm just like, ‘I did the 20k,' " she said, smiling. “It felt good.” Daume didn't just pass the training. She often crushed it, according to one of her trainers. “She was right at the top of the pack,” Marine Sergeant Matthew Schneider, a mortar instructor at the school, told VOA. Tears of joy welled up in Daume's mother's eyes as people gathered around to congratulate her on graduating from the School of Infantry. A retired Marine walked up to Daume Thursday and asked if he could just shake her hand. “You know, you're part of history, you know that, right? And that's amazing,” he told her.

History made, hardship ahead

However, not everyone is as positive about military females and their abilities. Daume's major milestone for the Marine Corps comes amid a massive photo scandal inside the service branch. A private Facebook group called “Marines United,” which included tens of thousands of Marines and retired Marines, posted links to explicit images of military women, often with sexist, derogatory comments. Some even referenced rape and molestation.

The Naval Criminal Investigative Service has launched an investigation, which has reportedly spread to other military branches. Marine Corps Commandant Robert Neller told lawmakers last week that he was disgusted, shocked and angry when he heard about the scandal. He said some members appeared to “have forgotten that every member of our team is an equal and valued member of our Corps.”“How much more do the females of the Corps have to do to be accepted?” Neller said. “We all have to get rid of this perversion to our culture. Enough is enough.”

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The Marine Corps Has Its First Female Armor Officer
14 Apr 2017 | WASHINGTON -- The Marine Corps' first female armor officer will soon report to Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, where she will become the first woman to lead a Marine tank platoon.
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On Wednesday, 2nd Lt. Lillian R. Polatchek graduated from the Army-led Basic Armor Officer Leaders Course at Fort Benning, Georgia, said Marine Capt. Joshua Pena, a spokesman for Marine Training and Education Command. Polatchek was the top graduate in the class of 67 soldiers and Marines. Polatchek downplayed her history-making graduation in a video released Wednesday by the Marine Corps. "Ultimately, I am sort of just looking at it as another Marine graduating from this course," she said. Soldiers and Marines must complete the 19-week course to become armor officers. Polatchek's graduating class had only five Marines, but each graduated in the top 20 percent of the class, including the top three students, according to a Marine Corps statement.

Polatchek credited her previous training in Marine Officer Candidate School and the Basic School, where newly commissioned Marine officers are taught leadership skills, for preparing her to do well in armor school. "We as a group [of Marines] did a really great job and that reflects on the class rankings," she said. "So it shows the success of all of our training up to this point and then how we worked well together as a group thanks to our instructors here." Polatchek is a native of New York and a 2012 graduate of Connecticut College, according to the Corps' statement. She joined the Marines in 2015 and attended Officer Candidate School. After completing the Basic School, she elected to attempt armor school. She is the third female Marine officer to complete training to serve in a traditionally all-male, front-line combat position. The Pentagon opened all military jobs previously closed to women in April 2016.


Standing in front of an M1A1 Abrams tank, 2nd Lt. Lillian Polatchek is the first female Marine Tank Officer after graduating as the distinguished honor graduate of her Army's Armor Basic Officer Leaders Course

Two female Marines completed artillery officer training in May of last year and are both serving with the 11th Marines at Camp Pendleton in California, Pena said. Two female Marine officers this month will begin the Corps' Infantry Officer Course in an attempt to become the first women to serve as infantry officers, Pena said. More than 30 female Marine officers had washed out from the course previously. There are no other women, either officers or enlisted, awaiting Marines' armor training, Pena said. No enlisted women are serving in an armor position, he said. Four enlisted female Marines have completed infantry training and are serving in infantry units at Camp Lejeune and Camp Pendleton. Pena said additional enlisted female Marines are expected to complete infantry training and join combat units in the near future.

It was not immediately clear Thursday when Polatchek would check in to her new unit, the 2nd Tank Battalion, or when she would take command of a tank platoon, spokesmen for Marine headquarters and the II Marine Expeditionary Force said. In the Corps' statement, Polatchek said she was looking forward to leading Marines. "A tank platoon has 16 Marines, and that small leadership size really gives you, as a platoon commander, the ability to directly work with the Marines you're leading," she said. "I'm excited to take everything we've learned [in armor training] and get a chance to go out to the fleet and apply it."

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