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Trump is a monster, a madman and a vile racist. He's just like Hitler. Or Jimmy Carter.

During the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter issued a number of orders to put pressure on Iran. Among these, Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.

Here's Jimmy "Hitler" Carter saying it back in 1980.

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Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.
Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against "our values" after all. It may even be "who we are". Either that or Carter was a racist monster just like Trump.

Meanwhile here's how the Iranian students in the US were treated.

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Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.
In November 1979, the Attorney General had given all Iranian students one month to report to the local immigration office. Around 7,000 were found in violation of their visas. Around 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the US.

Meanwhile any Iranians entering the US were forced to undergo secondary screening.

Interestingly enough, Carter did this by invoking the Nationality Act of 1952. A law originally opposed by Democrats for its attempt to restrict Communist immigration to the United States.

“If this oasis of the world should be overrun, perverted, contaminated, or destroyed, then the last flickering light of humanity will be extinguished,” Senator McCarran said of the law. He was a Democrat.

Now unlike Muslims, Iranians were not necessarily supportive of Islamic terrorism. Many were and are opponents of it. Khomeini didn't represent Iran as a country, but his Islamist allies. So Trump's proposal is far more legitimate than Carter's action. Carter targeted people by nationality. Trump's proposal does so by ideology.

Classifying Iranians as a group is closer to racism than classifying people by a racist supremacist ideology that calls for the mass murder and enslavement of non-Muslims, as ISIS is doing today.
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Carter is "one of the good guys", a communist, and a democrat. He gets a free pass from his minions.
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It is not about finding a solution for Muslim terrorism, it is about attacking the Republican front runner. None of the pompous Democrats denouncing Trump have a clue about how to prevent further Muslim terrorist attacks nor the integrity to admit their PC do nothing policy will guarantee more attacks costing American lives.
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iran is a country which was geographically and politically our enemy.
islam is a religion found throughout-the world.
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iran is a country which was geographically and politically our enemy.
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Which is politically our enemy.
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iran is a country which was geographically and politically our enemy.
islam is a religion found throughout-the world.
Carter temporarily banned a group of people due to a potential threat.

Trump wants to temporarily ban a group of people due to a potential threat.

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Which is politically our enemy.
no Islam is not our enemy. terrorists are. some claim to act in the name of Islam. some in the name of christian values.
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no Islam is not our enemy. terrorists are. some claim to act in the name of Islam. some in the name of christian values.
Islam is the enemy. The extremists come from within the Religion.

Many are extremist, as a percentage a thousand times more so than on the Christian side...

They can turn on non believers at any time, as we have seen. Especially when they, and their religion was being attacked by a person they know and may even work with. Of course this person was probably the first person shot....

Islam is much more than a religion, it is governance as well. They will bring it here and ignore our laws, and fallow their own. They will not assimilate to our ways and culture. All they know is Islam and it all consuming of their miserable lives... And they wish to eliminate our way of life, don't know why I wouldn't want that...

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Islam is the enemy. The extremists come from within the Religion.

Many are extremist, as a percentage a thousand times more so than on the Christian side...

They can turn on non believers at any time, as we have seen. Especially when they, and their religion was being attacked by a person they know and may even work with. Of course this person was probably the first person shot....

Islam is much more than a religion, it is governance as well. They will bring it here and ignore our laws, and fallow their own. They will not assimilate to our ways and culture. All they know is Islam and it all consuming of their miserable lives... And they wish to eliminate our way of life, don't know why I wouldn't want that...

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no these outcast serial murderers want religious Armageddon and you wanna give it to them
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