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History, Geography, & Military Discuss Missed Treatment: Soldiers With Mental Health Issues Dismissed For 'Misconduct' at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by mr. wonder I have to say this a valid point. the reactions to the PPhood tapes were ... |
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Problems with treatment of Veterans (both medical and psychiatric) have sadly been LONG documented. Stewart: U.S. Has Long History of Thanking Vets by ‘F*cking Them Over’ | Mediaite
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the "bad apple" defense is a joke.
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hey just Look - have you or those on left vetted ANYTHING the "supposed" soldier said? -have they investigated and exposed his background, political leaning, college friends? -have they checked with forensic media companies for the ABSOLUTE veracity of the tapes, -have they checked for editing that puts the Army docs in a even the SLIGHTEST better or worse light and made a case against the solders guilt and the Amries innocents simply based on that, -have they looked to see if the soldier is even losslly connected to any political group that are "OUT TO GET" the military, -have that got any other INDEPENDENTLY verified evidence of other Doctors shabby Pysch work and drumming out of Service, -Have they checked to see what laws may have been broken by the soldier in obtaining the tapes and called for the soldiers investigation and arrest, -have they question whether investigative reporting like this is unethical and prosecutable, or if he committed "fraud" in obtaining the interviews, -have they assumed that those that are outraged but not surprised and want further investigation of the Army are crazy, on mission, gullible etc.. -have they assumed the DoD innocent until proven guilty, -have they said "wait and see" for another investigation before we can prove army guilt? -have they declared that the investigation that the DoD has already done PROVES FINALLY and definitively that the doctors and system are A-OK and that the soldier is just a LIAR with edited tapes out to get the military -Have they given the psych doctors and DoD under investigation the full benny of the doubt and free reign to put out their side of the story as completely innocent until proven guilty by a standard of evidence that is not attainable except by full confessions, since hours of video taped conversation, comments and docs from the buyers, testimony of former PP workers, and even info contained in letters from PP itself is not enough. so yes the double standard here is clear to anyone objectively looking at it.
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If you can show me arguing ANY of that here regarding PP, you let me know. Until then, you're reply is pure b.s. Accusing me of having a double standard cause I'm not adhering these guys to a standard I didn't adhere for the others... ![]() I've already explained the difference. Without surprise, nobody here is willing to honestly address it. We have a long-standing history of this sort of problem with veteran treatment. Ergo, when yet another source proclaims "the desert is dry" you'll have to excuse me while I believe them. ![]() Also, when you've got SEVERAL investigations all coming up with NO EVIDENCE to the claims described here, THEN you'll have another real comparison note. But you go ahead and keep up with this b.s. where you ignore what my real arguments are. It plays well with some people, even though it's intellectually dishonest. ![]()
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![]() The VA denying treatment has been a major scandal that Obama has been ineffectual at solving. Hillary says it is overblown. But hey, there have been other VA scandals so what can they do? They are not responsible.
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It's not all always about you found unless you completely represent all of the lefts actions and words that Cnredd and i mentioned. what you did do is defend "the left" as not being hypocritical. "There is no double-standard with the PP example." is what you said. Sorry you don't get to back out now and try to narrow it your specific statements on each. the hypocrisy of the left is OBVIOUS here. You can deny that your statements are, if that makes you feel better. But there's no doubt that the lefts examined the the PP tapes FAR more critically than the veterans tapes here. But you looked at both sets of tapes with the exact same scrutiny ...cough... OK... sure. if you say so.
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