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Old 05-28-2014, 09:40 PM
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Two years ago my VA PCP ordered a routine colonoscopy as part of my annual physical exam, and it was outsourced to a private gastroenterology group near my home, as opposed to the Cleveland VA facility, which is a 20 minute drive from my home. I received a notice that the VA picked up the tab to the tune of $645. Yes, there are things they are authorized to outsource to free up assets at primary VA facilities, or to perform tests at a reduced cost to the VA. My wife's colonoscopy (through her employer sponsored health care plan) was billed by the same group at $950. The VA achieved savings of $305 by contracting this service out to a private group.
Re-read what I said and recognize the significance of the phrase "all on its lonesome"...

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And in all of that smokeand mirrors show, nothing was accomplished.. But you digressfromthe topic....Again.
"nothing was accomplished" in right-wing speak means the right-wing didn't get their way.

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Obama had the public behind him and both Houses of Congress.
He made a promise to the American people the GOP could not block.
I'm not talking about Obamacare
I'm not talking about the Stimulus
I'm not talking about saving the Auto industry
I'm not talking about saving the banks.
I'm talking about fixing things at the VA.
On this he did ZIP!

He did achieve some sizable increases in VA funding.
Claiming that was "ZIP" is yet another misrepresentation of reality on your part.
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Re-read what I said and recognize the significance of the phrase "all on its lonesome"...
Let's see, by using the acronym WTF, I guess there was NO worthwhile significance in your response, other than an attempt to belittle the poster and impose your moral superiority. Again, you seem obsessed with me and discrediting anything I post. Your hatred for me means that I own your mind, You cannot think of anything but belittling me with your condescending remarks. Way to go, 66.
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Re-read what I said and recognize the significance of the phrase "all on its lonesome"...


"nothing was accomplished" in right-wing speak means the right-wing didn't get their way.



He did achieve some sizable increases in VA funding.
Claiming that was "ZIP" is yet another misrepresentation of reality on your part.
Funding,,,,funding? The man didn't pass a budget for three years. Funding? After five years, whatever additional funding the President did for the VA, DID NOT FIX IT!

As I and others have shown previously, The VA had surplus funding. Funding is always the answer, and, in this case, never the solution.

We essentially have death panels at the VA. Maybe he doesn't Want to fix it.
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And in all of that smokeand mirrors show, nothing was accomplished.. But you digressfromthe topic....Again.
You are wrong again, you need to work on that…..

I challenged your bogus contention: ~ "In fact he wouldn't even meet with the GOP" ~

And proved it wrong with reality and links with republican leaders talking about the meeting….

You need to learn how to accept a loss when your words are proven wrong…

As far as Obama, I didn't vote for him in 2012 because of all of the broken promises and disappointments during his first term. He was a big disappointment for me and I've made that fact well known here….I didn't vote for Romney either btw.

That said, I still challenge all of the ridiculous garbage that gets thrown his way from the right when it's nothing more than hate...
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"had the authority to issue vouchers" ???
WTF?
Who the hell would pay for those vouchers? You think the VA has the capability to simply start outsourcing its medical work all on its lonesome

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Two years ago my VA PCP ordered a routine colonoscopy as part of my annual physical exam, and it was outsourced to a private gastroenterology group near my home, as opposed to the Cleveland VA facility, which is a 20 minute drive from my home. I received a notice that the VA picked up the tab to the tune of $645. Yes, there are things they are authorized to outsource to free up assets at primary VA facilities, or to perform tests at a reduced cost to the VA. My wife's colonoscopy (through her employer sponsored health care plan) was billed by the same group at $950. The VA achieved savings of $305 by contracting this service out to a private group.
As I have had done. I need a tooth pulled but at the Topeka VA they wanted me to go to the Kansas City VA to have it done. I said no way, I don't want to drive in that traffic.
So the Dentist placed a order to have it done by a private Dentist of my choice in Topeka.

Those in charge okay it, and I had it done.. On some matter it is up to the local VA Administration Staff, Foundit 66
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Let's see, by using the acronym WTF, I guess there was NO worthwhile significance in your response, other than an attempt to belittle the poster and impose your moral superiority. Again, you seem obsessed with me and discrediting anything I post. Your hatred for me means that I own your mind, You cannot think of anything but belittling me with your condescending remarks. Way to go, 66.
It astounds me how you proclaim to be bruised like a peach ...
... but then you habitually come out swinging when it suits you.

Do yourself a favor. Figure out that you taking offense is not the same thing as making a topical point.
'mmkay?

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Funding,,,,funding? The man didn't pass a budget for three years. Funding? After five years, whatever additional funding the President did for the VA, DID NOT FIX IT!
You're spouting talking points to ignore the reality of the situation.
The VA had their budget go up rather significantly. A pragmatic truth that you bypass with your diatribe.

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As I and others have shown previously, The VA had surplus funding. Funding is always the answer, and, in this case, never the solution.
I've seen one web-site make this claim. A web-site I already documented has been busted for making up news (and refused to come clean on it)
Perhaps I'm missing the substantiation, but if you would be so kind to document it...

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We essentially have death panels at the VA. Maybe he doesn't Want to fix it.
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I am suppose to have a VA Doctors appointment every 6 months. My last one was the First (April Fools) of April.

The doctor told me wait for 2 months then call to make your next appointment.

Which I did yesterday. Yet my team who sets up the appointments told me I will get a letter around the end of Sept., or the beginning of Oct. Which is the time to call an set up the appointment.

I said that's a bit further out than 6 months. And was told if I have any problems to call and they would have me see a doctor.

As foundit 66 has pointed out in the beginning sense Iraq more and more soldiers have become Vets. So I am not surprised nor upset.

As I have seen the amount of Vets grow over this period. I have got to know a few of them and these few I have gotten to know want to hear about my combat.
While I want to hear about theirs and the toll so many tours have taken from each of them.

Now not all of them want to talk except to each other. And I can respect this. As I was the same way after I returned home and started to use the VA system.

My to foundit 66 for starting this thread.

What I do know is that all of our VA centers are now starting to do their work in a better fashion, at least at our VA. Even if they have less doctors than a few years ago.

And this I believe is the heart of these problems, more Vets and more doctors leaving the VA.

In the past 2 years I have had 3 doctors and like the first one who retired I like my new one a lot.
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