Originally Posted by AZRWinger
If you believe Afghanistan is hopeless, where is the criticism of Obama for surging more troops in and setting a date certain for withdrawal years in the future? The war there is either unwinnable, meaning we should withdraw immediately or we ought to stay until we win it, the policy cannot be both but that is the muddled thinking of the OA. No wonder it is failing.
I fault George W. Bush for taking us there and Obama for keeping us there. Both men did what they did with good intentions but neither learned from the lessons of our past nor recognized the one simple fact ... That war was never going to be won.. Period.
We're not fighting a country , or a traditional National Military, we're fighting an invisible enemy who is vastly organized and recruits from all over the Middle east to bring in bodies , and they go to Afghanistan and use it as their play ground . Their objective is the same as it was against Russia, Draw us into a War and bankrupt us. Deplete our resources to the point where we either give up or we fall. We are bound by rules of engagement, they are not. The Afghan people are caught in the middle of this war with no way out. When we leave the Taliban will once again take over and they will go back to their way of doing things. Bin Laden is dead but his legacy or terror lives on.
The point is we never should have been there. Bush allowed himself for whatever reason, to be drawn into a War we were never going to win. When we were attacked and the World Trade centers were bombed in 1993 Clinton didn't fall for it. When they hit again on 9/11 they got what Bin Laden had wanted all along. They got the big fish to bite, and he took us to their playground where we were at a decided disadvantage from day one.
When Obama took office his first act as President should have been an Immediate withdraw from Afghanistan and Iraq. I realize we are bound to NATO and I understand the reasons he initiated a new surge, but frankly he should have told NATO to shove it, let them stay if they want, but get the American Military the hell out of there.
So yeah I basically agree, We should walk away and let them fight their own battles. The Afghanistan Government will not put up much of a fight without the U.S. to support them, so no matter how long we stay the end result is going to be the same. The only difference we can make now is saving some lives by ending the fight. If we leave the People will fall back in line with the Taliban rule , but hey, they'll be alive. If they want Freedom bad enough they will rise up on their own accord, we're just prolonging our own fate because we will never win that war. We got what we went there to get, it's time to get out.
and any finger pointing they do should be aimed right here at Home, to the President that took us there and the President that has kept us there.