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Then, may I suggest all you people who are for green hurry your buns up and discover sustainable energy in the form of FUSION?

Detouring back to the subject, it may interest the pig haters that human flesh tastes like pork. Of course, others say it tastes like tangy pork. Some say it tastes like veal. Some say it tastes like beef. I think, never having been a cannibal, humans taste like nothing.
So....are you saying it's the other white meat? Competition in the pork market?
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I don't care what happens to dead bodies. They are dead, and what was living has long exited.

But other people do.

It doesn't hurt to be respectful and to treat their bodies as we would wish those of our own people to be treated.

When it comes to the military - discipline and professionalism is part of the glue that holds a unit together under some of the worst conditions. Killing people in a war requires that they be dehumanized. It is not much of a step to desecrate their dead. And yet one more step to desecrate their women. Or kill their civilians. What keeps it in check is discipline and a professional attitude and that means even with what seems like small things. Desecrating bodies may seem small to some of us but they are very big things to others including our own people who were outraged when dead bodies were dragged through the streets of Mogidishu.

I could be all wrong - that is simply my opinion. I would not want our military to be any less than theirs because they are better and we are better.
I understand your POV. I just disagree. A dead body is a dead body. And what we're talking about here is the dead bodies of people who just tried to kill our soldiers and may have even succeed in killing or injuring some. I have zero issue with our soldiers pissing on such scum.
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I understand your POV. I just disagree. A dead body is a dead body. And what we're talking about here is the dead bodies of people who just tried to kill our soldiers and may have even succeed in killing or injuring some. I have zero issue with our soldiers pissing on such scum.
Would you have an issue with them pissing on ours?
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Would you have an issue with them pissing on ours?
No. The only issue anyone would have with it is emotional. And I'm looking at this logically.
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Would you have an issue with them pissing on ours?
I sent the Taliban three (3) THREE! letters of annoyance, informing them that they had better stop this nonsense of treating women like pig poopoo, and above all, do not partake of the nonsense of utilizing their bladder contents to hydrate any corpses they may come upon. If they continue, I will raise such a hissy fit that will make their mommas spank them like red-headed stepchildren. I am holding my breath waiting for their response. I signed it, the Azzaholah Muhammid, from Afghanistan.

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If I were king for a day I would require our soldiers to piss on all their bodies and bury them inside a pig. The only thing those fanatic scumbags understand is strength. where was the outrage when the scumbags poisoned the water supply to the girls school in Afghanistan? Since Obama became COOTWH our casualty rate has went up because of hisa stupid rules of engagement. ITS A WAR DUMBASS THERE ARE NO RULES OTHER THAN KILL OR BE KILLED!
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Shame to see our soldiers throw away their military careers over something so immature, juvenile and pointless, but we must maintain control, and behavior such as this is disgusting, disrespectful, should not be tolerated and has absolutely no place in our professional armed services.



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Back in the days when men really were allowed to behave as men, this wouldn't have gotten anything more than a hearty "so the Hell what?" In those days, not so long ago, soldiers took body parts for souvenirs, had trophy photos made with their kills, and often treated the bodies of enemy dead like infectious garbage, which is exactly what they were. I could even post videos from a historical site I know, taken from old films to illustrate my point, if anyone would like.

Every single, solitary person here has lived their entire lives reaping the benefits of war fought that way, that is like WAR; saturated in primal, brutal murderous, in some ways childish, masculinity. That's what war is folks. Didn't you know?

We send normal young men forth to kill and main to drop bombs on places where infants suckle at their mothers' breasts, to rend, burn, crush, shoot, and stab strangers who are trying to do the same and worse to them, all at the command of political leaders.

We send them into harm's way to deal with murderous savages, to suffer crippling injures, virtually limitless pain, slow, agonizing deaths, the loss of their closest friends, to be maimed, crippled and disfigured.

And now, effete little twits sitting on their well larded backsides behind desks with 25¢ titles, who haven't the moral right to stand in these soldiers' shadows for the undue honor it would grant them, have the vulgar, pretentious, disgusting temerity to dare to prosecute anyone from this episode.

"Kill on our command, but do it nicely!" People who find their tender sensibilities offended, but who will never face so much as a mugger or snarling dog need to accept that the best thing they could do is to shut their eyes until the real men finish the work which we as a society have decided is worth more than their lives.

Good God, what have we become?
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seems the PC-Crowd is still trying to devise ways to pick up Turds by the clean end!
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Granny says, "Dat's right - piss on dem Taliban...

Court Overturns Conviction of Marine Who Urinated on Taliban Corpses
9 Nov 2017 | A military appeals court has overturned the conviction of a former Marine Corps scout sniper involved in desecrating the bodies of enemy fighters in Afghanistan in 2011, finding that the actions of the service's top officer at the time tainted the case.
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The decision, by the Navy-Marine Corps Court of Criminal Appeals, was handed down Wednesday, five years after the original conviction. In December 2012, Staff Sgt. Joseph Chamblin was sentenced to 30 days' confinement, docked in pay, and demoted to sergeant for participating in an incident in which multiple Marine snipers attached to 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marines, urinated on enemy corpses and then posted a video of the act to YouTube. When the video got public attention, the incident made global headlines, creating a black eye for the Corps and prompting many prominent American leaders to denounce the snipers' actions.

The scandal would continue to make headlines in the years following, after a Marine attorney, Maj. James Weirick, came forward to allege that the then-commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. Jim Amos, had attempted to interfere with the cases to ensure harsh punishments for the Marines involved. Evidence of this alleged interference mounted. A 2012 affidavit from then-Lt. Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, appointed by Amos as the oversight authority for the sniper cases, states that Amos told him the Marines involved needed to be "crushed" and discharged from the Corps. Waldhauser, now the four-star commander of U.S. Africa Command, also alleged that Amos asked him whether he would give all the snipers general courts-martial, the highest form of criminal trial. When Waldhauser responded he would not, Amos allegedly told him he could make someone else the convening authority for the cases. Two days later, Amos did just that, appointing then-Lt. Gen. Richard Mills to take over. He told Waldhauser he had "crossed the line" in their previous conversation and was removing Waldhauser to fix that problem.


A team of infantry Marines with 3rd Platoon, Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, crosses a field during a security patrol in Helmand province, Afghanistan

Weirick and another attorney, Col. Jesse Gruter, who both worked for Mills when he took over the sniper cases, alleged in affidavits that Amos and his attorney, Robert Hogue, continued to exert influence over the sniper cases. In February 2012, Hogue requested that photos and videos of the sniper incident be classified as secret, a move that Weirick and Gruter saw as improper and designed to disadvantage legal defense teams for the snipers facing charges. When Gruter complained about the alleged improper classification, he claims Amos' top lawyer, Maj. Gen. Vaughn Ary, tried to get him removed from Mills' legal team. In spring 2012, Amos took to the road with a presentation he called the "Heritage Brief," a discussion with Marines intended to promote discipline and good behavior. The brief contained a photo of the sniper incident with the headline, "What Does America Think of Her Marines Today?"

Since the sniper cases were still being adjudicated, the brief raised concerns about unlawful command influence, a situation in which actions of a senior officer prejudice a legal case. Around the same time, Amos met with Mills and asked him which Marines he planned to prosecute. Shortly thereafter, Lt. Gen. John Paxton, then-commander of II Marine Expeditionary Force, from which all the snipers were based, sent a memo to Amos with "updates and recommendations" about the sniper prosecutions. Since the commandant was supposed to be completely hands-off regarding the legal proceedings, this memo also raised red flags for Gruter.

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"Desecrating" a Taliban corpse is like desecrating a turd by flushing it.
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