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Democrats, Republicans Coming to Agreement: Iraq Must Start Paying the Bill

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WASHINGTON Iraq's financial free ride may be over.

After five years, Republicans and Democrats seem to have found common ground on at least one aspect of the war. From the fiercest war foes to the most steadfast Bush supporters, they are looking at Iraq's surging oil income and saying Baghdad should start picking up the tab, particularly for rebuilding hospitals, roads, power lines and the rest of the shattered country.

"I think the American people are growing weary not only of the war, but they are looking at why Baghdad can't pay more of these costs. And the answer is they can," says Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska.

Nelson, a Democrat, is drafting legislation with Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine and Democrat Evan Bayh of Indiana that would restrict future reconstruction dollars to loans instead of grants.

Their bill also would require that Baghdad pay for the fuel used by American troops and take over U.S. payments to predominantly Sunni fighters in the Awakening movement. Plans are to propose the legislation as part of a war bill to cover spending through September.

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Well..at least there is some bipartisan common sense out there!
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What a friggin mess. I don't even know where all the money is going. I mean are we or the Iraqis buying $500 toilet seats? Is there any accounting for what is going on? I think its time for a public audit of the spending. The spending from this administration makes congressional pork barrel spending look like small change.

OK OK thats my rant. Now I'll get back in line.
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Actually, I think MY plan is better...

Instead of cash, have tankers come in and we get a percentage of the oil itself...

Then we sail the tankers back to the US and sell it to the highest bidder off-market who can pass the savings over to the American public...

Gas prices go down and we get oil from a source the US didn't have before...
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Actually, I think MY plan is better...

Instead of cash, have tankers come in and we get a percentage of the oil itself...

Then we sail the tankers back to the US and sell it to the highest bidder off-market who can pass the savings over to the American public...

Gas prices go down and we get oil from a source the US didn't have before...
Well if we are going that far who needs the oil companies? Lets just go socialist when it comes to oil. If we are going to send our men and woman to die for it why should the oil companies have record profits while the country goes deeper in to debt.
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Well if we are going that far who needs the oil companies? Lets just go socialist when it comes to oil. If we are going to send our men and woman to die for it why should the oil companies have record profits while the country goes deeper in to debt.
We didn't "send our men and woman to die for it"...

But if it comes as a bonus plan, I say we take advantage of it...
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What a friggin mess. I don't even know where all the money is going. I mean are we or the Iraqis buying $500 toilet seats? Is there any accounting for what is going on? I think its time for a public audit of the spending. The spending from this administration makes congressional pork barrel spending look like small change.

OK OK thats my rant. Now I'll get back in line.
Kinda reminds me of the Jerry Lewis movie..Who's Minding The Store. The sad thing is that he would do a much better job! In war there will always be armaments and funds unaccounted for but this is unacceptable at the rate we are seeing in Iraq.
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Well..at least there is some bipartisan common sense out there!

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In war there will always be armaments and funds unaccounted for but this is unacceptable at the rate we are seeing in Iraq.
And one of the things that REALLY pisses me off is how we get the report that the money / items went missing, and then LITTLE ELSE IS REPORTED.
No real information as to who did what, and where it went.
It's like neither side's politicians give a damn enough to be interested.


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Instead of cash, have tankers come in and we get a percentage of the oil itself...
My main objection to such an idea would be the "blood for oil" crowd would have a new refrain.
On a personally selfish level, I may be more interested in not giving them additional fodder, unless a big enough advantage to the oil over money approach is shown.
(Which there probably is...)
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Well if we are going that far who needs the oil companies? Lets just go socialist when it comes to oil. If we are going to send our men and woman to die for it why should the oil companies have record profits while the country goes deeper in to debt.
I agree very much with that.
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I find it so hard to believe that the US has spent so much money in Iraq and it's only now that congress has began to ask questions and demand answers.

I read that last fall the Iraqi government reported it had received $35 billion from oil exports (the US state dept believe it's closer to $60billion) Thats a bloody lot of money in anybodies lingo.

In 2006 Iraqi oil exports were 1.43 million bpd, in Dec 2007 1.82 million bpd, Jan 2008 1.92 and Feb 2008 1.93.

In the report I read a US official stated that a major problem was Iraq government corruption.

I wander how much that little piece of brilliance cost the American taxpayer.
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I gotta go with now they pay the entire tab till we leave. Even the vets from the war.
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