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It's funny that guilt by association is a good weapon when you have nothing on your real target.
So we shouldn't look at the people Obama chose to associate with? The fact he lied about his relationship with Ayers calling him just another guy in the neighborhood should have no impact on Obama's credibility?

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And FOX has had a relationship with O'Reilly, G Gordon Liddy, Ollie North. All Criminals. So the right doesn't watch FOX. BTW Obama is not a terrorist and was a baby when Ayers was playing anarchist. So the right deals in guilt by association but only for Obama.
iT HAS A LARGE IMPACT. Because Obama wants the same they tried to achive.

Socialism................ And plenty of politicans and criminals have gone down because of associations.
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I think I may speak for many on the left when I say to you on the right "WE DON'T GIVE A FLYING FU*K ABOUT BILL AYERS"
To his credit, though, he's a darn good writer.
I really liked that book he wrote about Barack Obama and his dad.



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iT HAS A LARGE IMPACT. Because Obama wants the same they tried to achive.

Socialism................

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I was just looking at Wiki and this seems to be the extent of their connection. Real bloodthirsty sh*t like doing charitable work.

Obama and Ayers first met in 1995 when Ayers and Dohrn hosted a small gathering at their home in the Hyde Park section of Chicago, the neighborhood in which the Obamas lived,at which then-state Senator Alice J. Palmer introduced Barack Obama to the group as her chosen successor for the 1996 Democratic primary. Dr. Quentin Young, a longtime physician who also attended, said it was a small group—maybe a dozen or so people—who were being introduced to the next senator from Chicago's South Side.[16] The formal announcement and endorsement by Palmer was held at the Ramada hotel.

Obama served as president of the board of directors for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a large education-related nonprofit organization that Ayers was instrumental in starting. The board disbursed grants to schools and raised private matching funds, while Ayers worked with the operational arm of the effort. Both attended some board meetings in common starting in 1995, retreats, and at least one news conference together as the education program started. They continued to attend meetings together during the 1995–2001 period when the program was operating.

Obama and Ayers served together for three years on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an anti-poverty foundation established in 1941. Obama had joined the nine-member board in 1993, and had attended a dozen of the quarterly meetings together with Ayers in the three years up to 2002, when Obama left his position on the board, which Ayers chaired for two years. Laura S. Washington, chairwoman of the Woods Fund, said the small board had a collegial "friendly but businesslike" atmosphere, and met four times a year for a half-day, mostly to approve grants. The two also appeared together on academic panel discussions, including a 1997 University of Chicago discussion on juvenile justice. They again appeared in 2002 at an academic panel co-sponsored by the Chicago Public Library. One panel discussion in which they both appeared was organized by Obama's wife, Michelle.

In 2008, a spokesman for the Obama campaign said the last time Obama and Ayers had seen each other was when Obama was biking in the neighborhood in 2007 and crossed paths with Ayers. The spokesman said "The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false."

The New York Times reported that Obama did not have a significant relationship with Ayers. According to several sources, Ayers played no role in starting Obama's career, which was primarily launched when Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, suggested Obama be appointed as chairman of the six-member board that oversaw the distribution of grants in Chicago.

In a November 2008 interview, Ayers said that he knew Obama only slightly: “I think my relationship with Obama was probably like that of thousands of others in Chicago and, like millions and millions of others, I wished I knew him better.”
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I was just looking at Wiki and this seems to be the extent of their connection. Real bloodthirsty sh*t like doing charitable work.
And no mention of how Obama gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Ayers when he was partnering with the former head of the Communist Party Mike Klonsky...who was also a blogger on Obama's own website...

Wiki's good for when you need to know certain facts, but horrible for gathering ALL information...Lies of omission are based simply on what the editors FEEL like telling you...
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And no mention of how Obama gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Ayers when he was partnering with the former head of the Communist Party Mike Klonsky...who was also a blogger on Obama's own website...

Wiki's good for when you need to know certain facts, but horrible for gathering ALL information...Lies of omission are based simply on what the editors FEEL like telling you...
So you have Obama personally giving hundreds of thousands to a guy who was a partner with a guy who formally was the head of the communist party. I guess so you are trying to say Obama was funding the communist party? If not what the fu*k are you talikng about?
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If they planned to ruin the economy and go socialist it didn't work. At least in ruining the economy bush did it for them. Summer of '08 everything went to hell. Had $4 gas in that year also.
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Oh I know a lot more about him and his radical friends. There goal was to ruin the economy and go socialism.

They were using 2 professors paper work on the topic from the 50's.

Sounds like Obama's plan and they are friends... A simple check of his name will give you plenty.

Here take your pick: Bill Ayers - Yahoo! Search Results
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Here is the thing. I have now looked this nonsense over and what Ayers and Klonsky was involved in was the small schools movement. Here is the link. More bloodthirsty stuff.

Small schools movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is what Ayers and Klonsky were involved in when Obama knew them. It wasn't communism or anarchy or terror. It was trying to reduce class size.

Now lets think about this a minute. G Gordon Liddy tried to undermine democracy right here in the states while commiting a felony. Ollie North sold arms to our enemy. Would you call that treason? Yet both of these morons were made stars of the right. Their pasts didn't seem to bother the right. Why is that. Yet when you have guys who despite their pasts are doing some good work and so get funding from the Annenburg foundation of which Obama is a board member, all of the sudden Obama hangs aroiund with terrorists? Was he voting to give them funding for some communist activity? No. Was he voting to fund terrorism? No. He was voting to give them funding supporting the smaller schools initiative. This is like saying that if Ayers eats in your restaraunt you are feeding terrorists. There is nothing here that would support the contention that Obama is involved with terror or communism. This is cheap guilt by association. I notice that those who push this BS never tell you tyhe details about Obama's association with these two. They just want people to believe Obama and Ayers are great pals that hang out at the ballgame together. It's all a bunch of BS.
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Here is the thing. I have now looked this nonsense over and what Ayers and Klonsky was involved in was the small schools movement. Here is the link. More bloodthirsty stuff.

Small schools movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is what Ayers and Klonsky were involved in when Obama knew them. It wasn't communism or anarchy or terror. It was trying to reduce class size.

Now lets think about this a minute. G Gordon Liddy tried to undermine democracy right here in the states while commiting a felony. Ollie North sold arms to our enemy. Would you call that treason? Yet both of these morons were made stars of the right. Their pasts didn't seem to bother the right. Why is that. Yet when you have guys who despite their pasts are doing some good work and so get funding from the Annenburg foundation of which Obama is a board member, all of the sudden Obama hangs aroiund with terrorists? Was he voting to give them funding for some communist activity? No. Was he voting to fund terrorism? No. He was voting to give them funding supporting the smaller schools initiative. This is like saying that if Ayers eats in your restaraunt you are feeding terrorists. There is nothing here that would support the contention that Obama is involved with terror or communism. This is cheap guilt by association. I notice that those who push this BS never tell you tyhe details about Obama's association with these two. They just want people to believe Obama and Ayers are great pals that hang out at the ballgame together. It's all a bunch of BS.
Wow, the amazing power of denial. Conjure up a claim that Obama's relationship with Ayers isn't "detailed" while maintaining it was in the service of innocent charity. Bill Ayers didn't abandon his Marxist convictions when he stopped setting bombs. He continued to spread the Marxist credo with projects like UN school teaching antiAmerican internationalism funded with a CAC grant courtesy of his old pal and handpicked executive director Barack Obama. Of course when Obama's just another guy in the neighborhood lie was exposed apologists shifted to Ayers set bombs so very long ago, as if that was the issue. Ayers gave up violent Marxist revolution but not Marxist fundamental transformation. His fellow traveler, Barack Obama, has never repudiated his support for Ayers spreading the Marxist gospel.
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