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Old 01-19-2012, 01:01 PM
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Default Obama pushes F-18 fighter jet in Brazil meeting

I heard on the news a short while ago about this and the newer Joint Strike Fighter. But so far can only find this from March of last year. I shall keep looking
for the news I heard this morning.

Even so Brazil is on friendly terms with Iran so why are these 2 countries doing this, besides the money.

Sweden is the third country involved in this bidding but their aircraft is the cheapest and undesired by Brazil..


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Sunday, March 20th, 2011.. Posted 19 Jan. 2012

Obama pushes F-18 fighter jet in Brazil meeting




RIO DE JANEIRO, March 20 (Reuters) – President Barack Obama
made a strong pitch for the Boeing F-18 jet fighter in a
meeting with Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff, but she did
not indicate if her government had decided to buy the U.S.-made
plane, the White House said on Sunday.

That would be the Super Hornet which right now is our 2nd best fighter jet after the to few F 22 fighter/bomber super crusie jet.

“The F-18 issue did come up. President Rousseff raised it,”
White House aide Dan Restrepo told reporters in Rio de Janeiro,
referring to the leaders’ bilateral meeting in Brasilia on
Saturday that kicked off Obama’s five-day Latin American tour.

Brazil is weighing a multi-billion dollar bid to modernize
its air force
, and Obama has made promoting exports to boost
U.S. jobs back home a central part of his trip to Brazil, Chile
and El Salvador.

It's Air Force has less than 20 French built fighter jets.. A few choppers and about the same number of transport aircraft.

So why this much of a build up? Would it have anything to do with the rise in anti-democracy which is growing south of our boarders?


President Obama underscored that the F-18 is the best
plane on offer
in that the technology transfer package …
is equivalent to the packages that are offered to partners and
allies around the world
,” said Restrepo, Obama’s top Latin
American adviser.

And Iran, China and others we see as anti friendly would get this package.. Leaving most of our allies if any big war were to come in trouble.

One factor in Brazil’s decision will be Washington’s
willingness to authorize transfers of proprietary technology,
which would help Brazil develop its own defense industry
.

Just how quickly will we get rid of our fighters after this foolish mistake.

I saw a show last night on our newest technology going into this new Joint 35 Fighter jet and each plane is not cheap, around 130 million apiece. So how will we replace the older Super Hornets quicky? Cause your talking about the Marines, Air Force and the Navy all at once.


The F-18′s main competition is seen coming from the French
Rafale fighter jet of Dassault Aviation
(AVMD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research), which had
been favored by Rousseff’s predecessor Luiz Inacio Lula da
Silva. Saab (SAABb.ST: Quote, Profile, Research) is also a bidder and said last month it
hoped for a Brazilian decision during 2011.

The Brazilian contract will likely be worth much more than
the initial bids, which have been reported by Brazilian media
to be in a $4-$6 billion range. Maintenance contracts will be
lucrative, and Brazil could eventually buy more than 100
aircraft
.

Rousseff’s surprise decision in January to restart the
bidding process for the tender was one of the earliest signs of
the pro-U.S. shift under her administration. Obama hopes during
his visit to capitalize on the improvement in U.S.-Brazilian
ties after sometimes tense relations with Lula
.

Gee Mr. President thats a lot of hope which you seem to plenty of.

(Reporting by Alister Bull; Editing by Paul Simao)
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Too bad this thread wasn't in the conspiracy theory section. I have some of those regarding Obama's pandering to Brazil.

It does seem suspicious, don't you think? There was the easy financing to Brazil for off-shore oil drilling, then he made it easier for Brazil to sell biofuels in America. A couple of weeks ago he bypassed an American plane builder to give Brazil a contract to build some sort of reconnaissance plane, or something. I wouldn't be surprised if he's created more jobs in Brazil than he has in America.
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Because they're a growing economic influence in South America and we're looking to be better trading partners with them now and in the future. There isn't a conspiracy beyond good economic sense. It's not suspicious in any way. The oil loan you spoke of was so they could buy oil production equipment from us; you know, goods built by Americans. Those orders mean work and pay for Americans employed in that sector, which is great news IMO.

As for that last bit about Obama creating more jobs in Brazil than in America, well that just silly nonsense; but, I guess that's a job for the conspiracy forum.
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Too bad this thread wasn't in the conspiracy theory section. I have some of those regarding Obama's pandering to Brazil.

It does seem suspicious, don't you think? There was the easy financing to Brazil for off-shore oil drilling, then he made it easier for Brazil to sell biofuels in America. A couple of weeks ago he bypassed an American plane builder to give Brazil a contract to build some sort of reconnaissance plane, or something. I wouldn't be surprised if he's created more jobs in Brazil than he has in America.


Dang it that was what I was looking for and put in the wrong info in the search.
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Well tell that to our un-employed workers as this isn't Obama's first time at bat and our people lose the jobs.. And yes it might just be part of a conspiracy to change this countries way of life, like Socialism, oppps thinking out loud again.

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Because they're a growing economic influence in South America and we're looking to be better trading partners with them now and in the future. There isn't a conspiracy beyond good economic sense. It's not suspicious in any way. The oil loan you spoke of was so they could buy oil production equipment from us; you know, goods built by Americans. Those orders mean work and pay for Americans employed in that sector, which is great news IMO.

As for that last bit about Obama creating more jobs in Brazil than in America, well that just silly nonsense; but, I guess that's a job for the conspiracy forum.
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I heard on the news a short while ago about this and the newer Joint Strike Fighter. But so far can only find this from March of last year. I shall keep looking
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Even so Brazil is on friendly terms with Iran so why are these 2 countries doing this, besides the money.

Sweden is the third country involved in this bidding but their aircraft is the cheapest and undesired by Brazil..



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Economy revolves around war currently. Will be glad if we ever beat our swords into plow shares again. By gosh I'd rather feed some people than kill em.
Just remember that the Bible also tells us to beat our plowshares into swords. There's a time for everything (I think that might just be in the Bible as well).
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Just remember that the Bible also tells us to beat our plowshares into swords. There's a time for everything (I think that might just be in the Bible as well).
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Just remember that the Bible also tells us to beat our plowshares into swords. There's a time for everything (I think that might just be in the Bible as well).
In the prophecy of Isaiah (Is 2:4)
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He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.
Makes you want to cry doesn't it...


In Joel 3:10

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Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears. Let the weakling say, "I am strong!"
The last quote in Ecclesiastes 3:1 , I prefer the more poetic King James:

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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
...And I was saying I would be glad when that time (Isiah) comes.
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Well tell that to our un-employed workers as this isn't Obama's first time at bat and our people lose the jobs.. And yes it might just be part of a conspiracy to change this countries way of life, like Socialism, oppps thinking out loud again.
Well you may be speaking aloud, not sure yet about the thinking part, especially when throwing in the word "socialism" where it really, really doesn't belong. It's a trade deal with a country that many view as a key economic ally, not a grand conspiracy to change the American system of commerce and industry into something radically different.
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