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Overthrowing Saddahm on the assumption that he had WMDs has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths. In fact I think it's like 670,000 deaths.
First, please read this...

Interrogator Shares Saddam's Confessions

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Saddam Hussein initially didn't think the U.S. would invade Iraq to destroy weapons of mass destruction, so he kept the fact that he had none a secret to prevent an Iranian invasion he believed could happen. The Iraqi dictator revealed this thinking to George Piro, the FBI agent assigned to interrogate him after his capture.

Piro, in his first television interview, relays this and other revelations to 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley this Sunday, Jan. 27, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

Piro spent almost seven months debriefing Saddam in a plan based on winning his confidence by convincing him that Piro was an important envoy who answered to President Bush. This and being Saddam's sole provider of items like writing materials and toiletries made the toppled Iraqi president open up to Piro, a Lebanese-American and one of the few FBI agents who spoke Arabic.

"He told me he initially miscalculated... President Bush’s intentions. He thought the United States would retaliate with the same type of attack as we did in 1998...a four-day aerial attack," says Piro. "He survived that one and he was willing to accept that type of attack." "He didn't believe the U.S. would invade?" asks Pelley, "No, not initially," answers Piro.

Once the invasion was certain, says Piro, Saddam asked his generals if they could hold the invaders for two weeks. "And at that point, it would go into what he called the secret war," Piro tells Pelley. But Piro isn’t convinced that the insurgency was Saddam's plan. "Well, he would like to take credit for the insurgency," says Piro.

Saddam still wouldn't admit he had no weapons of mass destruction, even when it was obvious there would be military action against him because of the perception he did. Because, says Piro, "For him, it was critical that he was seen as still the strong, defiant Saddam. He thought that [faking having the weapons] would prevent the Iranians from reinvading Iraq," he tells Pelley.

He also intended and had the wherewithal to restart the weapons program. "Saddam still had the engineers. The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there," says Piro. "He wanted to pursue all of WMD…to reconstitute his entire WMD program." This included chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, Piro says.

Saddam bragged that he changed his routine and security to elude capture. "What he wanted to really illustrate is…how he was able to outsmart us," says Piro. "He told me he changed…the way he traveled. He got rid of his normal vehicles. He got rid of the protective detail that he traveled with, really just to change his signature."
This is in 100% agreement with the Butler Report...

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Annex B - 24 September 2002

If we take this course and refuse to implement the will of the international community, Saddam will carry on, his efforts will intensify, his confidence will grow and, at some point in the future not too distant, the threat will turn into a reality. The threat therefore is not imagined. The history of Saddam and weapons of mass destruction is not American of British propaganda. The history and the present threat are real.
Second, WMDs were only one aspect of Congress passing House Resolution 114...

You neglect the hundreds of thousands of people ALREADY killed by Saddam & his regime before any mention of a war with Iraq was even started or that Saddam had a history of not only killing his own people with WMDs, but had also invaded or attacked other countries (not to mention over 2000 attacks on US planes in the internationally recognized No-Fly Zones)...
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The EU-3 had over 3 years of negotiating with Iran with ZERO results...

Please don't tell me about America's inability to use diplomacy...
That alone tells you something. The leaders of Iran have a death wish, it has to do with the prophecy they relate to. Something even Khomeini in his time outlawed and banned. As it deals with total chaos to bring in the peace and the Paradise they seek.
They know twice now Israel has stopped any enemy of the Jewish state from gaining this type of weapon. I mentioned this issues before. Just a theory of mine. They started in 1997 by ordering 102 advance fighters and modifying them by leaps and bounds.
See: F-16I
and: Israel Kicks Off Program to Improve Its F-16s and F-15s
plus: Israeli Weapons
They have developed and very advanced bunker buster that no one else has.
I believe before our elections we will open the way for these fighter/bombers to do the job they were planned and designed to do. But like I said it is my theory. But no one can deny that they won't allow the Iranian leaders to complete their weponds project with out trying to stop it. The results if not stopped would mean another World War, as the leaders of Iran seem he** bent on achiving complete control over the middle east as they had in the many years in the past. Any comments?
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That alone tells you something. The leaders of Iran have a death wish, it has to do with the prophecy they relate to. Something even Khomeini in his time outlawed and banned. As it deals with total chaos to bring in the peace and the Paradise they seek.
Exactly...That's why diplomacy is futile...

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They know twice now Israel has stopped any enemy of the Jewish state from gaining this type of weapon. I mentioned this issues before. Just a theory of mine. They started in 1997 by ordering 102 advance fighters and modifying them by leaps and bounds.
See: F-16I
and: Israel Kicks Off Program to Improve Its F-16s and F-15s
plus: Israeli Weapons
They have developed and very advanced bunker buster that no one else has.
I believe before our elections we will open the way for these fighter/bombers to do the job they were planned and designed to do. But like I said it is my theory. But no one can deny that they won't allow the Iranian leaders to complete their weponds project with out trying to stop it. The results if not stopped would mean another World War, as the leaders of Iran seem he** bent on achiving complete control over the middle east as they had in the many years in the past. Any comments?
Israel can't do it alone...

The northern and western parts of Iran are not in Israel's fighter range...They'd need the US's help on refueling (and intelligence)...
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Exactly...That's why diplomacy is futile...

Israel can't do it alone...

The northern and western parts of Iran are not in Israel's fighter range...They'd need the US's help on refueling (and intelligence)...
Note the first link. The modifiied fuel tanks on top of the wings and beside the fuselage will
give then the range. Also the start of my theory in the making.

And no they can't do it alone. But our fighters/bombers can put out the radars so our Air Force will strike first.
Israel doesn't except 50 planes to return I read someplace. But if that is the price to protect the nation then they will go for it. As they have in the past 60 (almost) years of their history.
Did you look at the first sites? The first picture that comes into view will show you these are not normal F-16's. And the hard points to hold some different wepons.



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