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Originally Posted by faithful_servant
So you think that the MASSIVE amount of money that the folks behind Solyndra pumped into his campaign and the campaigns of a lot of other Dems. had nothing to do with this???
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I hardly consider $87,050 a
"MASSIVE amount of money".
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Originally Posted by faithful_servant
Seriously???? Billo, you may be an insufferable (yet lovable) lunatic at times, but I never thought that you'd turn a willing blind eye to this kind crap.
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This is just another GOP
witch hunt, much like the one with ACORN was. And we all know how those accusations turned out. Not one was able to make it into a court of law, let alone whind up in a conviction. This is just the right crying wolf one more time.
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This isn't some assumed association, it's pure, unadulterated influence peddling.
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That's non-sense. First off, it wasn't Kaiser that made the donation, it was his foundation. Second, since it was his foundation, there was no way he could profit from it.
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The conservatives make the accusation that an Obama donor named George Kaiser is a major investor in Solyndra, and Solyndra received the loan guarantee as a result of Kaiser's (and others) campaign contributions, in order to personally profit. The problem with this is that George Kaiser was not an investor in Solyndra, the Kaiser Family Foundation was. According to Tulsa World,
In an emailed statement to the Tulsa World, a representative of the George Kaiser Family Foundation said the organization made the investment through Argonaut.
"George Kaiser is not an investor in Solyndra and did not participate in any discussions with the U.S. government regarding the loan," the statement said. "GKFF invests in a globally diversified portfolio across many different asset classes." The Kaiser Family Foundation is a philanthropic organization, which means Kaiser (or anyone else) could not personally profit from a successful investment by the foundation.
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So much for your influence peddling.
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Originally Posted by faithful_servant
Yes, it's happened on both sides, but for it to happen at this level, this blatantly and this expensively has got to get your fur up.
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This is just another Fox-based made up story.
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The typical conservative-outlet story follows a template of Glenn-Beckian accusations that someone "connected to" Obama has "ties" to something. When you hear the phrasing "has ties to" you should understand this as code-speak for "has nothing to do with but can be made to appear to have some sinister involvement if you twist the wording a certain way."
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Trust me, if there was something to get the "fur" standing, my fur would be the first to be standing at attention.
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Originally Posted by faithful_servant
Yet for some reason you chose to ignore this issue and try to shift the discussion to "B-b-b-but Bush..."
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I'm just putting things in perspective. Giving examples of real cronyism. Real examples, for which the right said nothing about at the time.
BTW, why is it, you're not mentioning the fact that one of the donors was the conservative Walton family and that Solyndra's first loan was approved by the Bush Administration?
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The company, partly backed by the conservative Walton family had received a loan guarantee from the Department of Energy. The loan, which was originally pushed by the Bush administration, was 1.3% of the DOE portfolio.
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