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CAPTDASH 02-08-2011 09:06 PM

Special Forces are war(n) out
 
When these guys get tired, you know it is time to get the hell out:

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Lolita C. Baldor, Associated Press Tue Feb 8, 3:12 pm ET

WASHINGTON The elite troops of U.S. special operations forces are showing signs of fraying after nearly 10 years at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, their commander said Tuesday.

Adm. Eric T. Olson says that while the number of special operations forces has doubled to about 60,000 over the last nine years, the total of those deployed overseas has quadrupled. Roughly 6,500 special operators are in Afghanistan and about 3,500 are in Iraq, although those numbers can vary as units move in and out of the war zone.

Olson said the demand for the specialized units in Afghanistan is insatiable, forcing troops to deploy to war at a rate that is off the charts. And he said he does not see that demand declining in the next several years.

As an example, he noted that while 100,000 regular forces have been pulled out of Iraq, leaving about 47,000 there, just 500 or so special operators were part of that withdrawal, which was just a fraction of the elite force there.

"Not on the same scale, but like the rest of the force we're seeing the indicators pressure on duty, pressure off duty," Olson said at a conference in Washington. Even though the size of his special operations force has grown, they are being asked to do more, he said, "so we are, frankly, beginning to show some fraying around the edges that we are addressing."

Altogether, about 12,000 special operations forces are deployed, and those not in Iraq and Afghanistan are scattered in other hotspots around the globe, such as Yemen.

Olson said one sign of the strain is that more mid-grade forces are opting to leave service this year than in previous years. As much as 60 percent of his force, he said, joined in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks and believe they were part of something important for the last eight or nine years.

"But what seems good for eight or 10 years, maybe doesn't seem as good looking ahead to 18 or 20 years," Olson said.

While the force and their families have proven to be resilient, he said leaders are now taking measures to address the emerging strains.

Officials, he said, are trying to increase training, make deployments more predictable, and stick to the schedules so there are fewer unexpected shifts.

In addition, he said they are working to educate families about what the forces do and what they can expect. And Special Operations Command is devoting more resources to programs for wounded and ill service members, he said.

The challenge, said Olson, is to stem the loss of the mid-grade troops, so that over the next 20 or 30 years the U.S. will still have a high-quality special operations force.

Trinnity 02-09-2011 10:16 AM

Re: Special Forces are war(n) out
 
It's only gonna get worse, and not just there. The Pan-Islamic Jihadists are ramping it up worldwide and won't run out of fresh fervor motivated recruits any time soon. :mad

mlurp 02-09-2011 07:35 PM

Re: Special Forces are war(n) out
 
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Originally Posted by CAPTDASH (Post 250531)
When these guys get tired, you know it is time to get the hell out:

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Lolita C. Baldor, Associated Press Tue Feb 8, 3:12 pm ET

WASHINGTON The elite troops of U.S. special operations forces are showing signs of fraying after nearly 10 years at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, their commander said Tuesday.

Adm. Eric T. Olson says that while the number of special operations forces has doubled to about 60,000 over the last nine years, the total of those deployed overseas has quadrupled. Roughly 6,500 special operators are in Afghanistan and about 3,500 are in Iraq, although those numbers can vary as units move in and out of the war zone.

Olson said the demand for the specialized units in Afghanistan is insatiable, forcing troops to deploy to war at a rate that is off the charts. And he said he does not see that demand declining in the next several years.

As an example, he noted that while 100,000 regular forces have been pulled out of Iraq, leaving about 47,000 there, just 500 or so special operators were part of that withdrawal, which was just a fraction of the elite force there.

"Not on the same scale, but like the rest of the force we're seeing the indicators pressure on duty, pressure off duty," Olson said at a conference in Washington. Even though the size of his special operations force has grown, they are being asked to do more, he said, "so we are, frankly, beginning to show some fraying around the edges that we are addressing."

Altogether, about 12,000 special operations forces are deployed, and those not in Iraq and Afghanistan are scattered in other hotspots around the globe, such as Yemen.

Olson said one sign of the strain is that more mid-grade forces are opting to leave service this year than in previous years. As much as 60 percent of his force, he said, joined in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks and believe they were part of something important for the last eight or nine years.

"But what seems good for eight or 10 years, maybe doesn't seem as good looking ahead to 18 or 20 years," Olson said.

While the force and their families have proven to be resilient, he said leaders are now taking measures to address the emerging strains.

Officials, he said, are trying to increase training, make deployments more predictable, and stick to the schedules so there are fewer unexpected shifts.

In addition, he said they are working to educate families about what the forces do and what they can expect. And Special Operations Command is devoting more resources to programs for wounded and ill service members, he said.

The challenge, said Olson, is to stem the loss of the mid-grade troops, so that over the next 20 or 30 years the U.S. will still have a high-quality special operations force.

Nice, news piece, did it not have a link to the story? Even if you post the whole story a link is always desired... :thumbsup

I see your a vet, thanks for your service.. :thumbsup ...And the profile.

CAPTDASH 02-09-2011 10:28 PM

Re: Special Forces are war(n) out
 
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Originally Posted by mlurp (Post 251208)
Nice, news piece, did it not have a link to the story? Even if you post the whole story a link is always desired... :thumbsup

I see your a vet, thanks for your service.. :thumbsup ...And the profile.

Yes there was a link. It was on Yahoo news. Check it out. I just didn't see a poitn in posting the link, but maybe that sort of thing ads credibility for a story to some of you folks. I don't know.

My service is my pleasure. thank you for appreciating.

CAPTDASH 02-09-2011 10:31 PM

Re: Special Forces are war(n) out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trinnity (Post 250732)
It's only gonna get worse, and not just there. The Pan-Islamic Jihadists are ramping it up worldwide and won't run out of fresh fervor motivated recruits any time soon. :mad

We need to take our guys off the chains holding them back and get this crap over with. Obama needs to open up the ROE and let us fight to win. How damn long does it take to find a goat herder standing 6'6 dragging around a dyalisis machine? Let the SF "groundcheck" the SOBs and there will be less to worry with. Y'all know that famous saying? Kill them all, let Allah sort them out. Yep I subscribe to that theory.

mlurp 02-11-2011 01:57 PM

Re: Special Forces are war(n) out
 
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Originally Posted by CAPTDASH (Post 251575)
Yes there was a link. It was on Yahoo news. Check it out. I just didn't see a poitn in posting the link, but maybe that sort of thing ads credibility for a story to some of you folks. I don't know.

My service is my pleasure. thank you for appreciating.

Just how do I "Check it out" if no link is provided? That is the point of providing a link to each story..

Just pick any topic and you will see links to the story or links to other sites to show another side of the topic.

Each and every time. And sense you made up the title I can not locate the story.

And you should read the RULES on the very bottom of the front page as they deal with TITLES, which are part of the copyrights by the reporter or his/her job provider.

I know your new here and was trying to help out... :wave

mlurp 02-11-2011 02:27 PM

Re: Special Forces are war(n) out
 
I googled the title and got this: Special Forces are war(n) out - Google Search

Which isn't much help. And to help you understand read this: http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/for...rum-rules.html

Trinnity 02-11-2011 03:17 PM

Re: Special Forces are war(n) out
 
US commander: Special operations forces stressed - Yahoo! News

Like Pat, I am only here to help.

mlurp 02-11-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trinnity (Post 252530)

Hummm a bit different title but same story as far as I can see. Thanks Trinnity.. Now to get CAPTDASH to read the rules related to titles. :rolls


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