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The Navy fired the commander of the USS Enterprise on Tuesday more than three years after he made sexually explicit videos to boost morale for crewmembers, some of whom say he did nothing wrong.

Capt. Owen Honors was involved in the making of the videos while serving as the No. 2 officer aboard the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.

The videos, shown in 2006 and 2007 to thousands of sailors to teach shipboard safety, used coarse language and supposed humorous sexual references to gays and women. They were made public recently after being obtained by Norfolk’s Virginian-Pilot newspaper. The newspaper did not explain how it got the videos and said it was unclear why the videos are resurfacing now.

“After personally reviewing the videos created while serving as executive officer, I have lost confidence in Capt. Honors’ ability to lead effectively,” said Adm. John Harvey, head of U.S. Fleet Forces Command in Norfolk.

Harvey declined to answer questions from reporters and said the Navy will investigate how the videos were produced and whether other senior officers knew of them. Honors was promoted twice subsequent to the showing of the videos.
Navy commander loses carrier job over lewd videos - Arizona News from USA Today


I can't help but think the two girls in the shower pretty much put the nail in the casket.
If some vice-president of a company had tried that in a civilian job, they would have been canned. No question.
Asking subordinate employees to engage in that type of behavior for video-tape, to be broadcast to the crew?
Even if they volunteered, it would have been wildly inappropriate.

If it had been people on the same level video-taping consenting adults with no coercion? Different story.
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Personally I don't see what the BFD is. It was a video meant to be humorous, sarcastic, and lighten the mood on the ship. It succeeded.

AND.... everyone knew about it 4 years ago when it happened. It was fine and dandy then. Suddenly it's not? Bull****, IMO.
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Personally I don't see what the BFD is. It was a video meant to be humorous, sarcastic, and lighten the mood on the ship. It succeeded.

AND.... everyone knew about it 4 years ago when it happened. It was fine and dandy then. Suddenly it's not? Bull****, IMO.
It isn't because the videos were lewd. Hell, pretty much everything is about sex these days. It was because he made fun of gays and they are a protected class. If he would have made fun of Christians or conservatives there wouldn't have been an issue. Typical double-standard.
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I'll bet he got nailed for poking fun at gays.

Anyone who knows anything about the Navy, knows there's a lot of silliness to relieve boredom.

Anyone aboard ship who was so offended by this stuff, is too lilly-livered to be in the military. Period.

I'm right put out with the Virginian Pilot-Ledger Star - my former hometown paper - for facilitating this hatchet job.
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It isn't because the videos were lewd. Hell, pretty much everything is about sex these days. It was because he made fun of gays and they are a protected class. If he would have made fun of Christians or conservatives there wouldn't have been an issue. Typical double-standard.
I didn't really see anything making fun of homosexuals in that video.
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I didn't really see anything making fun of homosexuals in that video.

There were supposedly others.
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There were supposedly others.
Meh... regardless. It's stupid. I can't believe they're ruining a man's career over this ****ing bull****. 4 years ago, everyone knew about it and no one batted an eye. Suddenly, people are appalled. It's stupid.

God this country is going down the ****ter with the dumbass PC police closing in at every turn.
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Meh... regardless. It's stupid. I can't believe they're ruining a man's career over this ****ing bull****. 4 years ago, everyone knew about it and no one batted an eye. Suddenly, people are appalled. It's stupid.

God this country is going down the ****ter with the dumbass PC police closing in at every turn.
That's the thing. Within the Navy it was no big deal.

But the minute the VP-LS got it published, the screaming, turd throwing, monkeys in our hypersensitive PC society went bat****, and the higher ups in the Navy hung this captain out to dry.

What I want to know is: who leaked the videos to the VP-LS?
Who was the passive-aggressive pouting sneaky little dirt-bag that sacked a good leader's career?

Bet he or she, is hiding in the shadows, pretending to be surprised.

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That's the thing. Within the Navy it was no big deal.

But the minute the VP-LS got it published, the screaming, turd throwing, monkeys in our hypersensitive PC society went bat****, and the higher ups in the Navy hung this captain out to dry.

What I want to know is: who leaked the videos to the VP-LS?
Who was the passive-aggressive pouting sneaky little dirt-bag that sacked a good leader's career?

Bet heshe is hiding in the shadows, pretending to be surprised.

It was a he-she? I didn't know they let them in the navy.
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I'll bet he got nailed for poking fun at gays.

The video itself mentions that it was about the women in the shower.
If you read news articles, they'll state it was about women in the shower.

But, whatever...


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Anyone who knows anything about the Navy, knows there's a lot of silliness to relieve boredom.
Anyone aboard ship who was so offended by this stuff, is too lilly-livered to be in the military. Period.
I'm right put out with the Virginian Pilot-Ledger Star - my former hometown paper - for facilitating this hatchet job.
Do you not see the legal issues with a superior filming two subordinates in the shower?
If this had been in the corporate world with a Walgreens Vice-President doing the same video with two women cashiers in the shower, we wouldn't be having this discussion...
The Veep would be out on his ass...
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