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Old 09-11-2010, 11:01 AM
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That's it keep your head in the sand and you will be wearing a burka before long.
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That's it hyjack the thread with childish comments instead of addressing the content. Typical liberal BS.
Since attempts to address the thread's CONTENTS are met with childish comments - why exactly should he bother?
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Doesn't seem to have incurred any ethnic cleansing (not like the Christian Bosnian Serbs perpetrated on the Muslims).....
Keep in mind that "Christian" Serbs were given that label more as a way to distinguish them from the Muslims, than as a refelction of thier faith. It's a lot like the supposed "Christian" militias in Africa who are in reality more Animist and non-religious than Christian. Labels create confusion when misapplied and both of these cases the label of Christian was used to more as "non-Muslim" than actually Chirstian.
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:28 AM
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Actually, it was Tumbleweed that dropped this thread down to the 4th grade level, 762 just joined her there.
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Actually, it was Tumbleweed that dropped this thread down to the 4th grade level, 762 just joined her there.
I responded to 762's post with content.

The reply I got was "4th grade level"....

In fact, a perusal of 762's replies to liberals who challanged his point of view seems to be "4th grade level"....so whether Tumbleweed started it or not - this seems to be Nato's preferred method of debate when challanged by liberals.

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There is nothing wrong with 4th grade level replies per se....sometimes, it's an opportunity to good to pass on - but we deserve to be called on it
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Keep in mind that "Christian" Serbs were given that label more as a way to distinguish them from the Muslims, than as a refelction of thier faith. It's a lot like the supposed "Christian" militias in Africa who are in reality more Animist and non-religious than Christian. Labels create confusion when misapplied and both of these cases the label of Christian was used to more as "non-Muslim" than actually Chirstian.
There is a very good book I read called "Balkan Ghosts" that talks about the history of these conflicts - and there is quite a bit of history. Labels DO create confusion, and labeling this as a Muslim vs Christian conflict is as inaccurate for the Muslims as it is for the Christians. Religion enters into it, but like a lot of such conflicts the roots are ethnic and owe their origins in some cases to centuries-old grudges that are a mix of conquests, kings and religious disputes. The Serbs have long had a major ethnic chip on their shoulders, and this conflict does/did involve religion but religion used to further cement nationalistic fervor. I think that is the case with many such conflicts.
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That's it hyjack the thread with childish comments instead of addressing the content. Typical liberal BS.
Typical Liberal BS aside, that comment was made after finding out that the article you posted had been fact checked for accuracy. Unlike you, I'm not buying what someone is selling just because they throw crap out there without providing a source to back up their claims.

Care to provide the source for any of the claims in the article besides it being adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book? I see deflection is already part of your rebuttal. Since Peter Hammond isn't here, maybe you can fill in the blanks.

According to Hammond's critical mass theory (which very few percentage of population estimates reflect current estimates) his claim is an absolute. Using France as an example because that's the country I'm most familiar with, and having reached critical mass of over 5%:

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From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the
introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby
securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure
on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with
threats for failure to comply
Hammond blames the unrest there amongst the French Muslims on their demand for clean food, even though the main reason for their unrest since the 60's has been marginalization and alleged discrimination leaving a lot of them living in poverty, not to mention that a majority of the Muslims there are from former French colonies who have an ax to grind that has nothing to do with food.

Actually Muslims living in France are absorbing the secular ways of their French countrymen, among whom 83% self-identify with their nationality, rather than their religion.

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Actually, it was Tumbleweed that dropped this thread down to the 4th grade level, 762 just joined her there.
That's the result of throwing something out there just for the hell of it. Now nato has to back up what what he threw out there which is something we haven't seen yet, or likely to see since this article is full of errors.
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There is a very good book I read called "Balkan Ghosts" that talks about the history of these conflicts - and there is quite a bit of history. Labels DO create confusion, and labeling this as a Muslim vs Christian conflict is as inaccurate for the Muslims as it is for the Christians. Religion enters into it, but like a lot of such conflicts the roots are ethnic and owe their origins in some cases to centuries-old grudges that are a mix of conquests, kings and religious disputes. The Serbs have long had a major ethnic chip on their shoulders, and this conflict does/did involve religion but religion used to further cement nationalistic fervor. I think that is the case with many such conflicts.
Rabbit trail time :

This whole conflict is a prime illustration of the benefit of the best form of gov't there is - a benevolent dictatorship. While Tito's gov't had it's dark side, it also kept this conflict under control. Given another generation or two under a leader who was willing to take the steps that Tito did to keep the peace and this divide would have most likely disappeared and the need for some of the worst of his gov't along with it. There was a lot about Tito's gov't that wasn't good, but Tito was a leader who had the best interests of his country at heart. There were things he did to build on that vision that were pretty rotten, but Yugoslavia had peace and properity that exceeded any E. European nation at that time.
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That's the result of throwing something out there just for the hell of it. Now nato has to back up what what he threw out there which is something we haven't seen yet, or likely to see since this article is full of errors.


I don't have to back anything up for you liberal morons....the ball is in your court to refute the original post. So far all I have seen is whining by left wingers because it doesn't fit into their politicall correct mindset and some nitpicking over whether Bangladesh is 80% or 83% Muslim.
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