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Old 07-18-2021, 11:14 AM
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Uh, if thousands out of a sample of hundreds of millions of Americans did not die within a few months, it would be a miracle. Millions of people die in this country every year. What’s completely missing here is causation. And the lie is this idiotic claim that information about the virus killing people has been censored. The blood clot issue was very widely reported. The claim that those thousand of other deaths are due to the vaccine is just bullshlt.
And the claim that people are dying because they've read "misinformation" on the interwebz is even MORE bullsh*ttier...

...and you give THAT claim, made by the friggin' President of these United States, a free pass..
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And the claim that people are dying because they've read "misinformation" on the interwebz is even MORE bullsh*ttier...

...and you give THAT claim, made by the friggin' President of these United States, a free pass..
People are dying because they chose not to get vaccinated. That’s a fact. And Facebook (and Fox News) are the two biggest sources of false information discouraging people from getting vaccinated. Another fact.
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People are dying because they chose not to get vaccinated. That’s a fact. And Facebook (and Fox News) are the two biggest sources of false information discouraging people from getting vaccinated. Another fact.
And they've chosen not to get vaccinated due to the Democrats being anti-vaxxers because of Trump hate...

My, the Left forgets recent history when it's so gosh-darn convenient...

Vaccine Skepticism Is the Fault of Anti-Trump Democrats

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Democrats are blaming Republicans, Fox News, and the anti-vaccine movement for “vaccine hesitancy.” What makes this criticism ring hollow is that it was Democrats who were the original anti-vaxxers. In their eagerness to defeat Donald Trump last fall, Democrats ginned up hysterical opposition to vaccines that were close to being approved for emergency use by the FDA.

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On September 24, New York governor Andrew Cuomo said the state will independently review all vaccines authorized by the federal government. “Frankly, I’m not going to trust the federal government’s opinion and I wouldn’t recommend to New Yorkers based on the federal government’s opinion,” he said in a statement.

This lack of trust in the government was picked up on by some anti-vax groups, saying Cuomo was reiterating their own arguments against vaccines generally. Cuomo’s spokesman Richard Azzopardi responded to these groups, telling Newsweek “the anti-science crowd should knock it off and stop twisting our words.”
“What we don’t trust is a federal government that has been caught red-handed multiple times circumventing the health experts and ‎making political decisions seemingly to boost the president’s re-election chances.”

The skepticism went all the way to the party leadership, including the party’s presidential candidate.

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At the start of September, Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris said she would not trust President Donald Trump‘s word alone that any vaccine developed is safe and efficient.

A week later, Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden made similar remarks during a speech in Delaware, saying, “I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don’t trust Donald Trump.”
Said Nancy Pelosi at the time: “Unless there is confidence that the vaccine has gone through the clinical trials, and then is approved by the independent scientific advisory committee, as established to do just this, there will be doubts that people will have.”

Of course, the vaccines went through clinical trials and were approved by three separate independent advisory boards. Pelosi knew this but she wanted people to distrust the vaccines so that Donald Trump wouldn’t benefit politically from his administration’s achievement.


There are many reasons for vaccine hesitancy, not the least of which is the risk/benefit analysis that most people do individually. Some people strongly feel they don’t need the vaccine or believe the risks of being inoculated outweigh the risk of getting seriously ill from the coronavirus.

But a sizable portion of the unvaccinated were almost certainly influenced by Democratic Party leaders who questioned the vaccine’s safety and efficacy.
On top of that, take a guess who is the largest group of people hesotent to get the vaccine...

Right-wing zealots?...

White supremecists?...

FoxNews watchers and Trump supporters?...

It's the Left's favorite group come election time (and forgotten during every non-election time)...

Biden’s vaccine push fails to gain traction with African Americans

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The Biden administration knew the key to a successful Covid vaccination campaign would be reaching the most vulnerable populations. But more than five months in, even a blueprint that’s worked with other ethnic and racial groups isn’t doing enough to win over Black Americans.

Less than a quarter of Black Americans had received their first Covid-19 shot as of June 7 based on available federal data, amid a weekslong stagnation that has defied the government’s ramped-up effort to accelerate vaccinations and reach the nation’s most vulnerable communities.

The slowdown has put Black Americans behind the pace set over the past month by other racial and ethnic groups tracked by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The trend line worries health officials and experts who say the immunization drive is running into a particularly complex web of distrust, outreach challenges and stubborn barriers to access.

“It’s a tough layer that we have to address — it requires relationship building and it’s going to take a little longer,” said Octavio Martinez, executive director of the Hogg Foundation for Mental Health, who sits on the White House’s Covid-19 Health Equity Task Force. “We have a systemic issue here.”

One of the task force's first assignments was recommending ways to build trust in the vaccines and effectively roll them out to those marginalized communities — chief among them Black Americans who are dying from Covid-19 at disproportionate rates. Some early ideas were incorporated into the administration vaccination plan crafted within the White House, task force members said. Yet as the panel has shifted its focus to other, long-term health equity issues in recent months, vaccine disparities have persisted.
So black people are getting the vaccine the LEAST, the death rate of blacks is HIGHER than everyone else............but it's FoxNews and false information on the internet at fault...

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“So the government, I think, is right to say this is wrong,” Williams said. “That’s all that’s being said. That this is [the] wrong kind of information and that these platforms, they always say it’s not our fault, we don’t have anything to do with the content. But in fact, the content on their platforms is literally killing people.
Literally? Really? Does Juan Williams know the meaning of the word "Literally? This is classic Juan Williams and the left in general, letting emotional arguments override wisdom and common sense.
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And they've chosen not to get vaccinated due to the Democrats being anti-vaxxers because of Trump hate...

My, the Left forgets recent history when it's so gosh-darn convenient...
Lol. Democrats expressing skepticism about any vaccine information from Trump is not anti-vax, it's anti-Trump. I wouldn't trust that lying piece of shlt on anything, nor should anyone.
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People are dying because they chose not to get vaccinated. That’s a fact. And Facebook (and Fox News) are the two biggest sources of false information discouraging people from getting vaccinated. Another fact.
More Bul**ittery without a shred of evidence to back it up.
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ok I listened to the whole thing and didn't see where she said the govt is censoring; in fact quite the opposite, but feel free to check my source I have posted for you here and give us the time so we can view your evidence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoW-jpPa8t8
Psaki clearly states the WH is working with FB to identify Covid misinformation. The WH declares something it doesn't like as misinformation then Facebook censors it. It's a clear cut violation of the 1st amendment. Are you really so obtuse you think Facebook isn't being used to censor protected speech?
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Lol. Democrats expressing skepticism about any vaccine information from Trump is not anti-vax, it's anti-Trump. I wouldn't trust that lying piece of shlt on anything, nor should anyone.
As pointed out (and you'll never address), the largest groups NOT getting vaccinated are the same groups the Left promises riches every four years...then dumps them like a hooker at a train station after elections...

From two weeks ago...

Latest Data on COVID-19 Vaccinations by Race/Ethnicity



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As of July 4, the country was just shy of reaching President Biden’s goal of having at least 70% of adults vaccinated with one or more doses of the COVD-19 vaccine, with 67% of the population 18 years of age or older receiving at least one dose according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). While this represents a marked achievement and is leading to steep declines in COVID-19 cases and deaths, vaccination coverage—and the protections provided by it—remains uneven across the country. In particular, Black and Hispanic people have had persistently lower rates of vaccination compared to their White counterparts across most states. These lower vaccination rates leave Black and Hispanic people at increased risk for infection, illness, and death, particularly as new variants, like the Delta variant, spread.
Let me guess...All Fox News watchers?...
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WH press secretary Jen Psaki proudly announced the WH is working with Facebook to censor whatever it deems as misinformation. Psaki later added that all social media platforms should follow suit by censoring the WH declared misinformation.
I find it downright scary that the president can impute, unto himself, the "right" to declare what is good information, and similarly declare what is bad information, and therefore censor the latter.

That is exactly the sort of thing that one might expect of a totalitarian state...
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I find it downright scary that the president can impute, unto himself, the "right" to declare what is good information, and similarly declare what is bad information, and therefore censor the latter.

That is exactly the sort of thing that one might expect of a totalitarian state
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Isn't that what they were accusing the Trump admin of? Just reaffirms what I have been saying for years, if you want to know what Democrats are up to, just listen to what they are accusing Republicans of doing.
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