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Old 11-20-2020, 07:27 AM
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a social media post a while back suggested if i don't think the mask works then tell my doctor not to wear a mask for my next surgery.
my response was if my doctor walked in wearing a homemade cloth mask like most folks i would run out of there and find a doctor who wasn't a moron.
the masks the general public is asked to wear is to make stupid people feel safe.
Doctors wear masks during surgery to protect an open wound from bacteria, not viruses. An N-95 mask will keep out 95% of particles 5 microns and larger. The Covid virus is between .5 and 1 microns in size. So even an N-95 mask will not do a very good job of keep the Covid virus from penetrating.

But please think about what I posted. I was referring to the fact that the general public should NOT use masks designated for them medical field, but instead use the cheaper cloth or paper masks that are either homemade or bought at WalMart.

This tells me that there is a significant difference in these types of masks and if my doctor should not be wearing the cheaper type, why? Is it that they are NOT affective? And if they are not affective, why do I have to wear it?

I am only posting this for people to think about what they are being told to do. If it made sense, fine, I would do it. But it makes absolutely no sense.
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A large mask study out of University of Copenhagen says that at best mask MIGHT be 15% effective.
IF worn correctly,
worn 1.7 times,
and it's one of the right kind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2unEsolAx4
....The Danish ‘randomised control trial’ study into the protective effects of facemasks caused the predictable furore when it was published this week. Comparing a sample of 3000 people who were wearing masks and 3000 people who were not, 42 of the mask-wearers became infected with Covid-19 and 53 of the non-mask-wearers: a small, non-statistically-significant difference....
But the leader of the study STILL "believes" it's a good idea to wear mask. They might help he says.


so are people CRAZY if they don't wear mask? or Crazy if they force people too?
how about both are 15% crazy ...maybe
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I had a doctors appointment a couple of days ago. ... If you are sick, have symptoms (coughing, sneezing, fever, sore throat) STAY HOME. If you notice someone with these symptoms, stay away from them. ...
sounds as if you either didn't understand his answer or didn't like it.
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sounds as if you either didn't understand his answer or didn't like it.
Or, I recognize BS when I hear it.
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Docs in the New England journal of medicine wrote in April

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

"....We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic....

....There may be additional benefits to broad masking policies that extend beyond their technical contribution to reducing pathogen transmission (for health care workers). Masks are visible reminders of an otherwise invisible yet widely prevalent pathogen and may remind people of the importance of social distancing and other infection-control measures.

It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals. Although such reactions may not be strictly logical, we are all subject to fear and anxiety, especially during times of crisis. One might argue that fear and anxiety are better countered with data and education than with a marginally beneficial mask, particularly in light of the worldwide mask shortage, but it is difficult to get clinicians to hear this message in the heat of the current crisis. Expanded masking protocols’ greatest contribution may be to reduce the transmission of anxiety, over and above whatever role they may play in reducing transmission of Covid-19. The potential value of universal masking in giving health care workers the confidence to absorb and implement the more foundational infection-prevention practices described above may be its greatest contribution."
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I posted a link to that article back in either April or May, but many of our leftist members never bothered to read it.
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