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Old 09-07-2020, 07:38 AM
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Lollie,
I don't wish to sound mean or petty but of those who passé,,,; Did they wear their masks?

If so, how did they then contract the disease? If they did not wear them, then why not?

Yes this COVID-19 is a serious disease. We must do what we canto protect ourselves and those we love. Do we really know how to do that? Or are we just making educated guesses?
In far too many cases, it seems like we're making uneducated guesses.
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Old 09-08-2020, 07:41 AM
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I used to be a mask debunker.
Not now.
Since August 24, we have lost 13 people to covid at the healthcare facility where I work.
GetAClue and Gordon more than likely know about that, since they are pretty close to my area.
Covid is real.
It's sneaky.
It's vicious.
As a nurse I can tell you this has not been fun.
Lollie, I have NEVER said that Covid wasn't real and deadly serious. My contention is that a simple cloth mask is not going to prevent the spread. I do feel for you and those around you and hope that the worst is behind us.

If I felt that wearing a mask would stop Covid in it's tracks, I would be out there pushing everyone to wear one. As someone that nearly died a few years back from the flu, I can attest to how serious these things can be. However, as simple paper or cloth mask is not going to stop a virus that is about 1 micron in size. An N95 mask protects down to 3 microns and is your best defense if you can get a hold of them. But a paper or cloth mask is like trying to container a swarm of mosquitoes with a split rail fence.

I will however, pray for you and your co workers as this thing runs its course. Stay safe!
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I used to be a mask debunker.
Not now.
Since August 24, we have lost 13 people to covid at the healthcare facility where I work.
GetAClue and Gordon more than likely know about that, since they are pretty close to my area.
Covid is real.
It's sneaky.
It's vicious.
As a nurse I can tell you this has not been fun.
my mother in law is in a nursing home.
loved ones are not permitted to visit this facility.
yet employees come and go daily.
and i can tell you this...no loved one brought covid into the nursing home; it was obviously brought in by an employee.
assuming they wear masks how the hell did it spread if the masks actually work?
if the masks work there's no good damn reason loved can't wear one when visiting.
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Old 09-13-2020, 05:31 PM
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World's Top Epidemiologists - Masks Don't Work!
Sat, 08/08/2020
Authored by John Miltimore via The Foundation for Economic Education,

Denmark boasts one of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world. As of August 4, the Danes have suffered 616 COVID-19 deaths, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.
That’s less than one-third of the number of Danes who die from pneumonia or influenza in a given year.
Despite this success, Danish leaders recently found themselves on the defensive. The reason is that Danes aren’t wearing face masks, and local authorities for the most part aren’t even recommending them.

This prompted Berlingske, the country’s oldest newspaper, to complain that Danes had positioned themselves “to the right of Trump.”
“The whole world is wearing face masks, even Donald Trump,” Berlingske pointed out.
This apparently did not sit well with Danish health officials.
From left to right: Professor Henning Bundgaard, Tamara van Ark, Anders Tegnell | Composite image by FEE (Rigshospitalet, Wikimedia Commons)
They responded by noting there is little conclusive evidence that face masks are an effective way to limit the spread of respiratory viruses.
“All these countries recommending face masks haven’t made their decisions based on new studies,” said Henning Bundgaard, chief physician at Denmark’s Rigshospitale, according to Bloomberg News.

Denmark is not alone.
Despite a global stampede of mask-wearing, data show that 80-90 percent of people in Finland and Holland say they “never” wear masks when they go out, a sharp contrast to the 80-90 percent of people in Spain and Italy who say they “always” wear masks when they go out.

Dutch public health officials recently explained why they’re not recommending masks.
"From a medical point of view, there is no evidence of a medical effect of wearing face masks, so we decided not to impose a national obligation," said Medical Care Minister Tamara van Ark.
Others, echoing statements similar to the US Surgeon General from early March, said masks could make individuals sicker and exacerbate the spread of the virus.
“Face masks in public places are not necessary, based on all the current evidence,” said Coen Berends, spokesman for the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment.
“There is no benefit and there may even be negative impact.”
In Sweden, where COVID-19 deaths have slowed to a crawl, public health officials say they see “no point” in requiring individuals to wear masks.
“With numbers diminishing very quickly in Sweden, we see no point in wearing a face mask in Sweden, not even on public transport,” said Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s top infectious disease expert.

What’s Going on With Masks?
The top immunologists and epidemiologists in the world can’t decide if masks are helpful in reducing the spread of COVID-19. Indeed, we’ve seen organizations like the World Health Organization and the CDC go back and forth in their recommendations...
CDC @CDCgov
CDC does not currently recommend the use of facemasks to help prevent novel #coronavirus. Take everyday preventive actions, like staying home when you are sick and washing hands with soap and water, to help slow the spread of respiratory illness. #COVID19 https://bit.ly/37Ay6Cm
For the average person, it’s confusing and frustrating. It’s also a bit frightening, considering that we’ve seen people denounced in public for not wearing a mask while picking up a bag of groceries....
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Last month, for example, researchers at Minnesota’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy responded to demands they remove an article that found mask requirements were “not based on sound data.”
The school, to its credit, did not remove the article, but instead opted to address the objections critics of their research had raised.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...asks-dont-work
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The ruling elite would love for us to mask up and be silenced. That's not going to happen. Yes, there are still a bunch of brainwashed sheeple, mostly on the left for some reason, who will comply with whatever someone in authority tells them to do, but the unnecessary mask mandates and shutdowns have caused many to awaken to the unjust control that the few have over the many. The few have power because of acquiescence, not because they have a legitimate right to rule others. Many are realizing this for the first time, so that is a positive outcome of the unjust mandates and shutdowns.
I'll bet if Trump had come out in January and told everyone to wear masks, the left would have fought it.

I have heard many Democrats say they will NOT take a Trump vaccine.
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I'll bet if Trump had come out in January and told everyone to wear masks, the left would have fought it.

I have heard many Democrats say they will NOT take a Trump vaccine.
Democrats don't need a vaccine. They are protected by the Kool-Aid.
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