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Old 02-13-2019, 02:09 PM
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My ancestors used every part of the animals they successfully hunted. Wasted NOTHING!

I'm fine with that.

If you don't want those "by-Products" on your table don't buy the heavily processed cheap stuff.

This is America,,,; YOU HAVE THE CHOICE!

…...at least for now
you don't have a choice if the label doesn't tell you what's in it and the FDA qualifies it as hamburger. You can do whatever you want to your body. Your ancestors died young. Like 40 was old in the hunter gatherer era. It was also often cold so ancestor brains were also smaller.
If you are speaking of recent ancestors they did have sense enough to know what was in their meat and use different parts for different purposes. They had no red die for one thing. Or bleach or preservative in their lard. In fact lard was an early preservative along with salt. We don't eat heavily salted meat anymore just cause our old grand pappy didn't have electricity yet.
Get a clue.
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you don't have a choice if the label doesn't tell you what's in it and the FDA qualifies it as hamburger.
Yes you do. You can go to another provider that you trust or that can demonstrate to you what is in your hamburger. We go straight to the farmer and have our meat processed at a local butcher. I know exactly what is in my meat, and what that steer was fed. There is no question about it.

As for the rest of your insane babble, I won't bother to comment as you are apparently off your meds again.
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Yes you do. You can go to another provider that you trust or that can demonstrate to you what is in your hamburger. We go straight to the farmer and have our meat processed at a local butcher. I know exactly what is in my meat, and what that steer was fed. There is no question about it.

As for the rest of your insane babble, I won't bother to comment as you are apparently off your meds again.
Having grown up on a farm, I knew what was in what we ate. My ancestors were Cherokee and ate what they could capture or kill. In both places nothing was wasted.

Our vegetables were grown in what came out of a cow's ass. Butter from cream that had cow hair in it. And eggs were so fresh they still had chicken poop on 'em when we brought them to the kitchen.

People today are so spoiled by the appearance of their food having no idea that red food die is made primarily from the shell of an insect. Meat at the grocer is red, not because it is fresh, but because of the lights used to display it

BTW Salt is a preservative. Lard is not.

Like wax, lard can be used to seal food. But in and of itself it is not a preservative agent. I does make the best Pie crusts.
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you don't have a choice if the label doesn't tell you what's in it and the FDA qualifies it as hamburger. You can do whatever you want to your body. Your ancestors died young. Like 40 was old in the hunter gatherer era. It was also often cold so ancestor brains were also smaller.
If you are speaking of recent ancestors they did have sense enough to know what was in their meat and use different parts for different purposes. They had no red die for one thing. Or bleach or preservative in their lard. In fact lard was an early preservative along with salt. We don't eat heavily salted meat anymore just cause our old grand pappy didn't have electricity yet.
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thanks to the FDA we used to know all that stuff. Now that CU is the rule of the land everything has been politicized.
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Salty, what is political about so called pink slime?

It's been around for decades. Used primarily as a meat glue. Unless you buy your hamburger on the hoof, you eat a few pounds each year.
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thanks to the FDA we used to know all that stuff. Now that CU is the rule of the land everything has been politicized.
I imagine TR spinning in his grave.
Mystery meat, brought to you by the same bunch who didn't feel that GMOs should be identified.

**** that. I grow my own or buy locally from farms I know the habits of.

You want to trust in the government, here you go......
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Mystery meat, brought to you by the same bunch who didn't feel that GMOs should be identified.

**** that. I grow my own or buy locally from farms I know the habits of.

You want to trust in the government, here you go......
tha government is is
we the people remember?
we have given over our birthright to big meat big pharma etc
starting in the 80s we did not hire enough inspectors also taking authority from remaining inspectors. nit only for meat and groceries but air and land /water pollution.

they can gut regulatory agencies openly now as the propaganda wagon has half of us thinking regs are bad. started out as I say just taking the teeth out of oversite to where people will dismiss them as ineffective and a costly nuisance.
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this is the government taking care of you.
it’s the government version of your best interest.

it’s weird when i see lawsuit commercial for drugs or other consumer products going after a manufacturer but not the government agency that approved the product as being safe.
if lawsuits are the result of a bad product approved by a government agency shouidn’t that agency be part of that lawsuit?
and if the government agency tasked with approving products that are safe for the public can’t do that with accuracy is it really a necessary agency?
I 'thanked' your post, because you are correct, all the way up to the last line.

While the FDA has screwed the pooch a number of times, I really don't want to consider a situation with NO oversight at all. People are greedy, they will take shortcuts if they KNOW no one is watching.
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I 'thanked' your post, because you are correct, all the way up to the last line.

While the FDA has screwed the pooch a number of times, I really don't want to consider a situation with NO oversight at all. People are greedy, they will take shortcuts if they KNOW no one is watching.
I agree with this and I do believe there needs to be some regulatory agency in charge of insuring our food supply meets standards. However, there is very little incentive for companies not to follow standards and allow tainted products to leave their operations. The potential lawsuits from lack of quality control, is too big a risk for companies to take. I know, there are some that try, but they are generally put of out business after being exposed.
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I agree with this and I do believe there needs to be some regulatory agency in charge of insuring our food supply meets standards. However, there is very little incentive for companies not to follow standards and allow tainted products to leave their operations. The potential lawsuits from lack of quality control, is too big a risk for companies to take. I know, there are some that try, but they are generally put of out business after being exposed.
The biggest risk to our food system is not the FDA or corporate greed . It is the inability to control every action by every employee which handles food products. Virtually every recall can be traced back to lack of performance by an employees or group of employees.

That doesn't take employers off the hook. We have to carefully monitor our staff. I can tell you from personal experience, it only takes one slip to bankrupt a company. One summer student employee got cute with some Post-it notes in the product stream. Nobody saw it go by. Whilst no one was harmed by corrupted product....; We spent years rebuilding our reputation.

Ask the folks who make Tylenol. Or Con Agra's 9 million lbs of ground burger. Every company is well aware of this. We don't need laws and inspectors to be responsible. But I'm glad to have them help in the process of providing wholesome products.


As for pink slime those who are detractors of it should look up what it actually is. It's actual purpose is to reduce fat content in ground meat and meat products.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_slime
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