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Former medical expert at the CDC say autism is caused by vaccine for some children....
He told the DOJ and they fired him. go figure.


former CBS news reporter Vaccine report...
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FULL MEASURE: January 6, 2019 - The Vaccination Debate
Former medical expert at the CDC say autism is caused by vaccine for some children....
He told the DOJ and they fired him. go figure.


former CBS news reporter Vaccine report...
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what has changed? vaccines have been given since the 50s yet autism was not on the rise till fairly recently.

DDT?
other fertilizer components?
genetic altering of food (my senator Crapo favors a Monsanto written bill to outlaw allowing the public to know which foods are altered)?
or could it be something else?
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what has changed?
The internet made it easier to widely distribute totally false conspiracy nonsense (like the false idea that vaccines cause autism).
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what has changed? vaccines have been given since the 50s yet autism was not on the rise till fairly recently.

DDT?
other fertilizer components?
genetic altering of food (my senator Crapo favors a Monsanto written bill to outlaw allowing the public to know which foods are altered)?
or could it be something else?
the number and kind of vaccines has risen dramatically since the 50's.
then it was 2 or 3 max, in 2018 it's 10 to 13 or more different vaccines laid one on top of another.

but i suspect... you did not you watch the report at all did you?
A scientist that had defended vaccines in court, as a CDC expert witness from the CDC has confirmed that there is in fact a problem of vaccines causing autism.
And if the vaccines are so safe why did the big phara have congress unconstitutionally create a secret court were they pay out millions in damages to families of kids with autism and other problems?

Are we to simply believe in vaccines safety and effectiveness because the MSM and Big Pharma assure us it's so?

But the question isn't really the source is it.
it's what facts do the sources bring to the table, and what facts are left unsaid or ignored becasue of ...ummm... wanting to go along with the status quo.

But hey, maybe you folks are right, the gov't and big corps have never been mistaken or lied to the American public before... right?
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the number and kind of vaccines has risen dramatically since the 50's.
then it was 2 or 3 max, in 2018 it's 10 to 13 or more different vaccines laid one on top of another.

but i suspect... you did not you watch the report at all did you?
A scientist that had defended vaccines in court, as a CDC expert witness from the CDC has confirmed that there is in fact a problem of vaccines causing autism.
And if the vaccines are so safe why did the big phara have congress unconstitutionally create a secret court were they pay out millions in damages to families of kids with autism and other problems?

Are we to simply believe in vaccines safety and effectiveness because the MSM and Big Pharma assure us it's so?

But the question isn't really the source is it.
it's what facts do the sources bring to the table, and what facts are left unsaid or ignored becasue of ...ummm... wanting to go along with the status quo.

But hey, maybe you folks are right, the gov't and big corps have never been mistaken or lied to the American public before... right?
if you had gone to school with kids who wore braces on their arms and legs and worked with people one foot shorter than the other, knew a couple lady had one little arm, husband's foot was turned backwards-

you would be more interested in fixing vaccines if they are suspect instead of getting rid of these wonderful drugs.
btw did I mention I hope you never have to hear a baby with the whooping cough?
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if you had gone to school with kids who wore braces on their arms and legs and worked with people one foot shorter than the other, knew a couple lady had one little arm, husband's foot was turned backwards-

you would be more interested in fixing vaccines if they are suspect instead of getting rid of these wonderful drugs.
btw did I mention I hope you never have to hear a baby with the whooping cough?
I had a cousin that had a deformed leg from polio.
I'm aware of the problems.

But did you hear me say we should BAN vaccines?
But you'll never see me supporting forcing drugs on our whole population by law.

Did you watch the report did you see the young man with severe autism...caused by these "wonderful drugs"? you might be more cautious and less Pollyanna about them if you had.
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I had a cousin that had a deformed leg from polio.
I'm aware of the problems.

But did you hear me say we should BAN vaccines?
But you'll never see me supporting forcing drugs on our whole population by law.

Did you watch the report did you see the young man with severe autism...caused by these "wonderful drugs"? you might be more cautious and less Pollyanna about them if you had.
probably the wonderful drugs his parents took or the wonderful fertilizer used to grow components of his baby food.

when you spread this nonsense, millions of the super hyper paranoid (and motherless and might as well be motherless) people will just not have their kids immunized.
just there's a rash of anti vaccine folk out there. Sorry if I got you mixed up with them.
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probably the wonderful drugs his parents took or the wonderful fertilizer used to grow components of his baby food.

when you spread this nonsense, millions of the super hyper paranoid (and motherless and might as well be motherless) people will just not have their kids immunized.
just there's a rash of anti vaccine folk out there. Sorry if I got you mixed up with them.
can you quote the "nonsense" part of the report for me? And refute it with facts?
Or is it that any questions about any vaccine is nonsense and heresy by default in your view?

and why do you fault the baby food makers!!!! children have to EAT. have you ever seen starving children
why are you spouting NONSENSE about fertilizers and baby food makers?!?!?
super hyper paranoid mothers will read that and stop feeding their children.
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what has changed? vaccines have been given since the 50s yet autism was not on the rise till fairly recently.

DDT?
other fertilizer components?
genetic altering of food (my senator Crapo favors a Monsanto written bill to outlaw allowing the public to know which foods are altered)?
or could it be something else?
Do a bit of research, please. Answer these questions for yourself.....

In the 1950s, how many vaccines were given to Children, versus the 2000's?
In the 1950's, at what age were vaccinations done, versus the 2000's?
In the 1950's, what was contained in the vaccinations, versus the 2000's?

Monsanto/Bayer et al is a whole nuther discussion, one of which can fill pages and pages. The citizens of this country have been, and continue to be test subjects for all sorts of chemicals. Think thalidomide......
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Do a bit of research, please. Answer these questions for yourself.....

In the 1950s, how many vaccines were given to Children, versus the 2000's?
In the 1950's, at what age were vaccinations done, versus the 2000's?
In the 1950's, what was contained in the vaccinations, versus the 2000's?

Monsanto/Bayer et al is a whole nuther discussion, one of which can fill pages and pages. The citizens of this country have been, and continue to be test subjects for all sorts of chemicals. Think thalidomide......
thalidomide was recalled. if a vaccine is a problem it will be recalled. meanwhile with all the people stepping off airplanes from who knows where, my grandchildren should be made immune to disease eradicated here long ago.
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