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Flu killed over 80,000 Americans last flu season. 80,000 or more..


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Why did the flu kill 80,000 Americans last year?

October 23, 2018 6.42am EDT

The 2017-2018 flu season was historically severe. Public health officials estimate that 900,000 Americans were hospitalized and 80,000 died from the flu and its complications. For comparison, the previous worst season from the past decade, 2010-2011, saw 56,000 deaths. In a typical season, 30,000 Americans die.

So why was the 2017-2018 season such a bad year for flu? There were two big factors.
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Why did the flu kill 80,000 Americans last year?

October 23, 2018 6.42am EDT

The 2017-2018 flu season was historically severe. Public health officials estimate that 900,000 Americans were hospitalized and 80,000 died from the flu and its complications. For comparison, the previous worst season from the past decade, 2010-2011, saw 56,000 deaths. In a typical season, 30,000 Americans die.

So why was the 2017-2018 season such a bad year for flu? There were two big factors.
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Thank God I wasn't one of them. If there's a pneumonia epidemic my goose is cooked. Can't tolerate the vaccine.
I used to get the flu two or three times per year before I left the southeast. I have had it here but just the one year they didn't get the vaccine out in time and once I neglected to get my shot.
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Thank God I wasn't one of them. If there's a pneumonia epidemic my goose is cooked. Can't tolerate the vaccine.
I used to get the flu two or three times per year before I left the southeast. I have had it here but just the one year they didn't get the vaccine out in time and once I neglected to get my shot.


And I haven't gotten even the sniffles in a long while.. Eating better makes a difference.

Not drinking booze helps too.
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that number just strikes me as way tobig.
I'm looking at the links and get to few lines that sorta clarify whats going a little for starters:
Older adults and those with certain chronic health conditions (e.g., heart and lung disease, diabetes and obesity) are also at high risk of serious flu complications that can result in hospitalization. Last season (2017 - 2018) again took the greatest toll on adults age 65 years and older. According to CDC, about 70 percent of the estimated hospitalizations and 90 percent of deaths occurred in that age group...

then there's this
...During the 2017 -2018 season, 180 influenza deaths in children were reported to CDC, exceeding the previously recorded high of 171 for regular (non-pandemic) influenza season. ....
http://www.nfid.org/newsroom/news-co...ss-release.pdf

180 children, which is terrible, but out of an "estimated" 80,000 people?


hmmm, sorry but to me the big numbers just seem fishy.
Especially since many of the folks were older with health problems already.
Plus all these numbers are put out to try and hype EVERYONE to take flu vaccines. from 6 month olds through healthy young and adults to the elder crowd. BLANKET vaccines for something that obviously primarily effects unhealthy 65 year olds and older.

I probably should look more into the details of how these numbers are come by, but for now I'm just not accepting them at face value.
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that number just strikes me as way tobig.
I'm looking at the links and get to few lines that sorta clarify whats going a little for starters:
Older adults and those with certain chronic health conditions (e.g., heart and lung disease, diabetes and obesity) are also at high risk of serious flu complications that can result in hospitalization. Last season (2017 - 2018) again took the greatest toll on adults age 65 years and older. According to CDC, about 70 percent of the estimated hospitalizations and 90 percent of deaths occurred in that age group...

then there's this
...During the 2017 -2018 season, 180 influenza deaths in children were reported to CDC, exceeding the previously recorded high of 171 for regular (non-pandemic) influenza season. ....
http://www.nfid.org/newsroom/news-co...ss-release.pdf

180 children, which is terrible, but out of an "estimated" 80,000 people?


hmmm, sorry but to me the big numbers just seem fishy.
Especially since many of the folks were older with health problems already.
Plus all these numbers are put out to try and hype EVERYONE to take flu vaccines. from 6 month olds through healthy young and adults to the elder crowd. BLANKET vaccines for something that obviously primarily effects unhealthy 65 year olds and older.

I probably should look more into the details of how these numbers are come by, but for now I'm just not accepting them at face value.
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From what I understand, the vaccine issued last year didn't cover the virus that actually was rampant. Telling people a shot like that will keep them healthy is false advertising IMO, and can be more dangerous than the actual bug.

I am considered 'high risk', being a Type 1 diabetic. I also had a horrendous reaction the last time I had a flu shot, 20 some-odd years ago.

I believe I've had the flu twice in the last 20 years, if that, it may have been just a wicked cold with a side kicker of intestinal disruption, who knows, but common sense preventatives certainly helps lowers your risk factors.
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From what I understand, the vaccine issued last year didn't cover the virus that actually was rampant. Telling people a shot like that will keep them healthy is false advertising IMO, and can be more dangerous than the actual bug.

I am considered 'high risk', being a Type 1 diabetic. I also had a horrendous reaction the last time I had a flu shot, 20 some-odd years ago.

I believe I've had the flu twice in the last 20 years, if that, it may have been just a wicked cold with a side kicker of intestinal disruption, who knows, but common sense preventatives certainly helps lowers your risk factors.
yes different strokes for different folks.
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Flu killed over 80,000 Americans last flu season. 80,000 or more..


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Why did the flu kill 80,000 Americans last year?

October 23, 2018 6.42am EDT

The 2017-2018 flu season was historically severe. Public health officials estimate that 900,000 Americans were hospitalized and 80,000 died from the flu and its complications. For comparison, the previous worst season from the past decade, 2010-2011, saw 56,000 deaths. In a typical season, 30,000 Americans die.

So why was the 2017-2018 season such a bad year for flu? There were two big factors.
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that number just strikes me as way tobig.
I'm looking at the links and get to few lines that sorta clarify whats going a little for starters:

Me too, so many deaths, yet in my first post with link leads to several other links with in this news release. Explaining just how they come to 80,000. See 3rd paragraph in first link after going to site.

ie; How many people died from flu during the 2017-2018 season?
While flu deaths in children are reported to CDC, flu deaths in adults are not nationally notifiable. In order to monitor influenza related deaths in all age groups, CDC tracks pneumonia and influenza (P&I)-attributed deaths through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) Mortality Reporting System. This system tracks the proportion of death certificates processed that list pneumonia or influenza as the underlying or contributing cause of death. This system provides an overall indication of whether flu-associated deaths are elevated, but does not provide an exact number of how many people died from flu.

Older adults and those with certain chronic health conditions (e.g., heart and lung disease, diabetes and obesity) are also at high risk of serious flu complications that can result in hospitalization. Last season (2017 - 2018) again took the greatest toll on adults age 65 years and older. According to CDC, about 70 percent of the estimated hospitalizations and 90 percent of deaths occurred in that age group...

then there's this
...During the 2017 -2018 season, 180 influenza deaths in children were reported to CDC, exceeding the previously recorded high of 171 for regular (non-pandemic) influenza season. ....
http://www.nfid.org/newsroom/news-co...ss-release.pdf

180 children, which is terrible, but out of an "estimated" 80,000 people?

Yet these numbers are real as children are counted.

hmmm, sorry but to me the big numbers just seem fishy.
Especially since many of the folks were older with health problems already.
Plus all these numbers are put out to try and hype EVERYONE to take flu vaccines. from 6 month olds through healthy young and adults to the elder crowd. BLANKET vaccines for something that obviously primarily effects unhealthy 65 year olds and older.

I probably should look more into the details of how these numbers are come by, but for now I'm just not accepting them at face value.
I agree use my links...
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From what I understand, the vaccine issued last year didn't cover the virus that actually was rampant. Telling people a shot like that will keep them healthy is false advertising IMO, and can be more dangerous than the actual bug.

I am considered 'high risk', being a Type 1 diabetic. I also had a horrendous reaction the last time I had a flu shot, 20 some-odd years ago.

I believe I've had the flu twice in the last 20 years, if that, it may have been just a wicked cold with a side kicker of intestinal disruption, who knows, but common sense preventatives certainly helps lowers your risk factors.


dang auto capo....

I'm Type 2 diabetic.. Yet for some reason every year so far flu shots work for me.

I don't do children, use wipes when food shopping, don't spit into the wind []
Chest & neck covered when windy..
Basic common sense in use here..
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dang auto capo....

I'm Type 2 diabetic.. Yet for some reason every year so far flu shots work for me.

I don't do children, use wipes when food shopping, don't spit into the wind []
Chest & neck covered when windy..
Basic common sense in use here..
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