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mlurp 02-24-2016 09:35 PM

Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
Why even bother to read the label, sense most companies lie on it. Most of what is suppose to be Natural isn't. Just another lie disclosed on PBS. And this.

So I would like your thoughts on this topic and how might it be fixed?

What is underlined is a link at the site.

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That Organic Label You're Paying Extra For? It's Probably A Lie

Delish: Rheanna O'Neil Bellomo, 1 day ago.

It's widely believed-and preached by environmental groups, activists, and healthy-eating advocates alike-that if you're looking to avoid unhealthy pesticides in your food, you should buy local, organic produce whenever possible. And thus pay a premium for safer, healthier food. However, these long-held notions may not be entirely true.

Getty Organic Food Is A Lie—It's Still Contains Synthetic Pesticides

According to an annual summary of pesticide data, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) revealed that a whopping 21 percent of organic samples tested contained pesticide residue. And those discovered pesticides were not the organic-approved concoctions like sulfur, copper compounds, and mineral oils; instead, the residues included 40 different types of synthetic chemical pesticides-all at levels comparable to those found on conventionally grown produce. In 26 cases, the levels were lower; but in 30 cases, they were on par or higher.

It's worth noting that the USDA also reported that the overall pesticide levels were minimal and that they "do not pose a safety concern for U.S. food." Still, this certainly does not fit the definition of organic food that it's continually applauded for..................... Continued At .....................
That Organic Label You're Paying Extra For? It's Probably A Lie

saltwn 02-24-2016 10:08 PM

Re: Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
part of that is due to pesticide use in other farms but it is a concern
used to have my own garden and plenty of buffers for the wind blown crap. :redface

FrancSevin 02-25-2016 11:49 AM

Re: Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlurp (Post 804467)
Why even bother to read the label, sense most companies lie on it. Most of what is suppose to be Natural isn't. Just another lie disclosed on PBS. And this.

So I would like your thoughts on this topic and how might it be fixed?

What is underlined is a link at the site.



That Organic Label You're Paying Extra For? It's Probably A Lie

The lie is not on the label but in the marketing scheme. And the villains in that scheme include the health advocates which push the benefits of these "organic" products.

Our government constantly assures us that things will be better with more regulators. It turns out, that only works if one blindly trusts the regulators. But here, once again, we have evidence that we cannot blindly trust our government with our safety.

Remember, we were once assured cigarettes were safe. Are Organic cigarettes safe? Or just safer poisons?

Be informed or be fooled. Simple really.

Good topic MLURP,,, thanks for posting.

mlurp 02-25-2016 12:37 PM

Re: Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 804535)
The lie is not on the label but in the marketing scheme. And the villains in that scheme include the health advocates which push the benefits of these "organic" products.

Our government constantly assures us that things will be better with more regulators. It turns out, that only works if one blindly trusts the regulators. But here, once again, we have evidence that we cannot blindly trust our government with our safety.

Remember, we were once assured cigarettes were safe. Are Organic cigarettes safe? Or just safer poisons?

Be informed or be fooled. Simple really.

Good topic MLURP,,, thanks for posting.

:thumbsup, All very true.. Even what is listed a Natural take with a grain of salt. :eek

I have heard it will take 3 more years before everything is listed and true on each label of what is sold in our food stores.

If this applies to other consumer items I do not know.

On PBS News Hour last evening they had a repot of tocin to the lungs are these Electronic Cigarettes. So in some areas they have advanced a little, these consumer groups.
The Govt., could run 2,000 studies and never reach any conclusion which in many cases right now is how it is.. :sad

FrancSevin 02-25-2016 12:52 PM

Re: Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlurp (Post 804542)
:thumbsup, All very true.. Even what is listed a Natural take with a grain of salt. :eek

I have heard it will take 3 more years before everything is listed and true on each label of what is sold in our food stores.

If this applies to other consumer items I do not know.

On PBS News Hour last evening they had a repot of tocin to the lungs are these Electronic Cigarettes. So in some areas they have advanced a little, these consumer groups.
The Govt., could run 2,000 studies and never reach any conclusion which in many cases right now is how it is.. :sad

Be careful with the salt. Most salt sold today as "table" salt has Calcium Silicate in it.

That is the same stuff that causes Mesothelioma. Weird right?

jimbo 02-25-2016 01:00 PM

Re: Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
We just had a thread on shredded cheeses. Which represents the problem with labeling. The name itself (Parmesan) clearly suggests the real thing (Parmigiana) which it is not, then lists the contents as 100% Parm. The ingredient label says otherwise.

Same with organic. USDA allows certain pesticides and additives without specific labels.

The solution. I doubt if there is one.

FrancSevin 02-25-2016 01:06 PM

Re: Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo (Post 804545)
We just had a thread on shredded cheeses. Which represents the problem with labeling. The name itself (Parmesan) clearly suggests the real thing (Parmigiana) which it is not, then lists the contents as 100% Parm. The ingredient label says otherwise.

Same with organic. USDA allows certain pesticides and additives without specific labels.

The solution. I doubt if there is one.

It is part of what is allowed, or for want of a better word "Tolerated," in "Marketing"

Here is one of my favorites. A Nutra Grain bar sells for $1.29 at the grocer. Inside is the equivalent of two Fig Newton's which you can buy in strawberry, blueberry, and apple fillings just like the "Newton's" in the cookie aisle for $4.00 a 36 count package.

Ingredient and nutritional lists are virtually the same. :wave
They are made on the exact same machine.

One is cut before baking, the other after.

One is sold as a health snack and the other is just a calorie laden "cookie."
6 to 1 price ratio.:rolls


marketing.:thumbsup

mlurp 02-25-2016 01:09 PM

Re: Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 804544)
Be careful with the salt. Most salt sold today as "table" salt has calcium Silicate in it.

That is the same stuff that causes Mesothelioma. Weird right?

:thumbsup

:funny, :rofl2

300 H and H 02-25-2016 04:37 PM

Re: Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
Even though I am not an organic farmer, I do know something of this as I do know other farmers who are organic, and I have worked with grain processors who deal with both, organic and non organic...

It takes 4 years of no chemical use before the land can be certified organic. That is a long time and the largest single hurdle to get into organic production.

Best way perhaps is to turn it into pasture ground and put beef cows on it for those years.. Many keep farming the land organic, take the reduced yield and sell the crop as non organic. 4 years of misery till you call it organic and certifiable with the OCIA, the Iowa body that certifies you as organic.

As for what is required by USDA and any other Government agency ect.. I have no idea, other than my organic friends think very lowly on USDA and it's involvement in organic production. They day the big food companies and other industries related have USDA in their palm's and have un due influence over the rules...

Regards, Kirk

saltwn 02-25-2016 05:21 PM

Re: Lies, Organic Label You're Paying Extra For?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo (Post 804545)
We just had a thread on shredded cheeses. Which represents the problem with labeling. The name itself (Parmesan) clearly suggests the real thing (Parmigiana) which it is not, then lists the contents as 100% Parm. The ingredient label says otherwise.

Same with organic. USDA allows certain pesticides and additives without specific labels.

The solution. I doubt if there is one.

this is the solution.
this
we are discussing it and all make informed decisions


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