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I have a friend who will not take flu shots.She has been answering the phone at one of the large local hospitals for about 10 years.
Notice has recently been sent to all employees that flu shots are mandatory by Dec 31. She is currently seeking employment elsewhere, since there will be no arguing with the powers-that-be.
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Therefore, this report probably only represents a tiny fraction of the actual number of people harmed or killed by vaccines,



Do settlements in the VICP indicate any safety concerns by the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) regarding the vaccine alleged to cause the injury?
No. Conclusions regarding the safety of the vaccines should not be drawn based upon the fact that cases were settled. Settlements are one way of quickly resolving a petition or claim. Settlements are an agreement between the respondent (the DHHS, represented by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ)), and the petitioner (the person who filed the vaccine injury claim). Settlements are not an admission by the United States or the Secretary of Health and Human Services (Secretary) that the vaccine caused the petitioner’s alleged injuries. In settled cases, the United States Court of Federal Claims does not determine that the vaccine caused the injury. Claims may be resolved by settlement for many reasons, including consideration of prior court decisions; a recognition by both parties that there is a risk of loss in proceeding to a decision by the Court making the certainty of settlement more desirable; a desire by both parties to minimize the time and expense associated with litigating a case to conclusion; and a desire by both parties to resolve a case quickly and efficiently.

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Do settlements in the VICP indicate any safety concerns by the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) regarding the vaccine alleged to cause the injury?
No. Conclusions regarding the safety of the vaccines should not be drawn based upon the fact that cases were settled. Settlements are one way of quickly resolving a petition or claim. Settlements are an agreement between the respondent (the DHHS, represented by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ)), and the petitioner (the person who filed the vaccine injury claim). Settlements are not an admission by the United States or the Secretary of Health and Human Services (Secretary) that the vaccine caused the petitioner’s alleged injuries.
These disclaimers are standard lawyerspeak.

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The fact that GBS is one of the side effects of the annual flu vaccine is well known and documented. The package insert of the flu vaccine even lists a warning regarding GBS: “If Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) has occurred within 6 weeks of previous influenza vaccination, the decision to give Fluzone should be based on careful consideration of the potential benefits and risks.”
Enough said?
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These disclaimers are standard lawyerspeak.

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The fact that GBS is one of the side effects of the annual flu vaccine is well known and documented. The package insert of the flu vaccine even lists a warning regarding GBS: “If Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) has occurred within 6 weeks of previous influenza vaccination, the decision to give Fluzone should be based on careful consideration of the potential benefits and risks.”


Enough said?
No not enough said where is the documentation?

Immunization is also important for some adults. The CDC recommends an annual inactivated influenza vaccine, particularly for anyone over age 50, residents of long-term care facilities, people with chronic health problems, people with weakened immune systems, pregnant women who will be past their third month during flu season, and medical professionals and family members who will be in close contact with anyone who is an influenza risk. The message is clear: Don’t be complacent. Flu is a highly infectious disease of the lungs that can lead to pneumonia. Each year flu sends about 114,000 U.S. residents to the hospital and kills an average of 30,000. Flu is not merely a bad cold!

http://www.health.harvard.edu/flu-re...our-health.htm

While it is not fully known what causes GBS, it is known that about two-thirds of people who get GBS do so several days or weeks after they have been sick with diarrhea or a lung or sinus illness. An infection with the bacteria Campylobacter jejuni, which can cause diarrhea, is one of the most common illnesses linked to GBS. Although rare, people can also get GBS after having the flu or other infections such as Epstein-Barr virus.

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The less fear mongering fact base side...

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Fear the Flu, Not the Shot: Influenza Vaccination and Guillain-Barré Syndrome
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Risk of Guillain-Barré Syndrome After Seasonal Influenza Vaccination and Influenza Health-Care Encounters: A Self-Controlled Study

Kwong JC, Vasa PP, Campitelli MA, et al

Lancet Infect Dis. 2013;13:769-776

Three recent studies focused on the risk for Guillain-Barré syndrome following influenza vaccine, an important and often-voiced concern of both patients and healthcare workers during vaccination campaigns.

Kwong and colleagues used claims data from a Canadian universal healthcare system database to evaluate the risk for Guillain-Barré syndrome following seasonal influenza vaccination. Of 2831 inpatient admissions for Guillain-Barré syndrome, 330 had received the influenza vaccine, and 109 had an influenza-coded healthcare encounter within 42 weeks before the hospitalization. The investigators found that Guillain-Barré syndrome was associated with both influenza illness and the seasonal influenza vaccine, but the risk for Guillain-Barré syndrome within 6 weeks of an influenza-coded healthcare encounter was much higher than the risk for Guillain-Barré syndenza-related healthcare encounters vs 1 admission per million vaccinations). They also found that admission for Guillain-Barré syndrome occurred sooner after an influenza-coded healthcare encounter (during the first week) than after influenza vaccination (during the second and third weeks).rome following influenza vaccination (17 admissions per million influ
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The less fear mongering fact base side...

Fear the Flu, Not the Shot: Influenza Vaccination and Guillain-Barré Syndrome
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Risk of Guillain-Barré Syndrome After Seasonal Influenza Vaccination and Influenza Health-Care Encounters: A Self-Controlled Stu
This study is on a site that requires establishing a password. I'm interestested in your study, but not that interested. Perhaps you could print the abstract if it's available.
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No not enough said where is the documentation?
Please see my previous post on the package insert warning issued by the manufacturer. That warning was mandated by the USFDA. How much more documentation do you need ?
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Please see my previous post on the package insert warning issued by the manufacturer. That warning was mandated by the USFDA. How much more documentation do you need ?
There is no post on package inserts from you in this thread.

Empirical, quantifiable, testable research documentation peer reviewed would be good by me.
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There is no post on package inserts from you in this thread.
Sure there is - see post#4.
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