Here's what a REAL "War On Women" looks like...

100,000 women undergo brutal genital mutilation illegally in Britain (and some of the victims are as young as TEN)

When in Rome, act like the savages you were allowed to be in your homeland...

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Ah yes, this is on another forum I am on, and it turned to an anti-circumcision for baby boys debate. So, pre-empting that I would say that whereas for baby boys it is done for religious reasons and there are no ill-effects as the practice of baby boy circumcision is carried out in a clean and safe environment, for the original post above female circumcision is done for the cultural control of females.

Female circumcision has no place in British society as we are having to repair the damage done physically and psychologically to these poor girls. Families come here seeking a new life. They are fortunate to be here safe from persecution and poverty in their homelands, but the old habits die hard.

(So-called casting out of demons and accusing children/adults of witchcraft amongst the African community in the UK is also extremely common too, leading to torture and murder of children accused of said witchcraft).

Eventually Muslims will have this made legal in Western countries due to they PC mindset of head-in -the-sand liberals.

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As I understand it it is actually done to insure patriarchy.

I first read about it in a medical journal where these young women (college students or what have you) were coming into the American hospitals to deliver babies and were at first thought to be [former] burn victims.
Horrible practice, no place in any society.

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In baby boys in the US, it is rarely done for religious reasons (about 80% of baby boys in the US are circumcised; few of those are Jewish), but more for hygienic and aesthetic reasons. All of my sons are circumcised, and I'm not religious. I am aware that routine circumcision is far less common in Europe and in the rest of the world. Routinely circumcising all male children is mainly a North American cultural preference/practice.

Among cultures which practice female circumcision, many do not remove the clitoris or sew the vaginal opening shut (this is only done in the most extreme form of FGM, which is not the most common form), but simply remove part of the labia, in which case it is pretty much akin to male circumcision, and practiced for much the same reasons (aesthetics, cultural preference, and hygiene).
As most Americans believe that uncircumcised male genitals are unattractive, smelly, and probably germy, some cultures probably believe the same of about unmodified female genitals. This belief does not necessarily translate to controlling females, however (although admittedly most of the cultures which practice it are highly patriarchal). The American distaste for uncircumcised penises does not translate to controlling or oppressing males. It just means that we as a society find males in their natural state undesirable, and believe that they require surgical modification. Apparently, some cultures feel the same about females.

My culture thinks either one is unnecessary and akin to voodoo especially in modern society where cleanliness is much easier than it was wandering the desert for forty years in the Moses books.
If you cut part of the penis off-you cut part of the penis off. Duh. Teach them how to clean themselves and little girls similarly.

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It is voodoo, but it's mostly harmless, whether for girls or for boys.
I only had my youngest son circed because his dad and older bros are.
No other reason. I asked both of my sons if they were sorry they were circumcised, and they both said no, they were glad.
So I couldn't let #3 be uncircumcised, and different from everybody else.
Plus a friend who is an ex-CPS social worker told me a tale about how CPS removed a toddler from his home because they felt that his repeated penile infections, which were the result of an uncirced penis which was not kept properly clean, constituted neglect.
I'm a busy woman; I've got enough to worry about without having to worry about my kid getting penis infections if I don't clean his penis constantly.
I'd rather he just have a circumcised penis, which isn't as prone to infection and doesn't require a lot of special care.

[QUOTE=1069;428874]It is voodoo, but it's mostly harmless, whether for girls or for boys.
I only had my youngest son circed because his dad and older bros are.
No other reason. I asked both of my sons if they were sorry they were circumcised, and they both said no, they were glad.
So I couldn't let #3 be uncircumcised, and different from everybody else.
Plus a friend who is an ex-CPS social worker told me a tale about how CPS removed a toddler from his home because they felt that his repeated penile infections, which were the result of an uncirced penis which was not kept properly clean, constituted neglect.
I'm a busy woman; I've got enough to worry about without having to worry about my kid getting penis infections if I don't clean his penis constantly.
I'd rather he just have a circumcised penis, which isn't as prone to infection and doesn't require a lot of special care.[/QUOTE
I understand completely why people have it done, just irks me that either sex has to be cosmetically modified at birth. What if that little snip was ...important. Like tonsils and appendix were once thought of as garbage.

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Like wisdom teeth are now.
I never had mine pulled; I had braces when I was young, and they made room for my wisdom teeth. They've never given me any trouble.
But when my son was in AIT (after basic training, for the army), they insisted on pulling his wisdom teeth when he visited the dentist for an unrelated complaint. It seems like almost everyone these days gets their wisdom teeth pulled, whether or not they're causing any trouble.

Yes because 'most' cause problems -grow in sideways or crooked, but just like doing a Csection used to be the rule because you had one before, I have my suspicions too.
you better watch it , you're starting to sound like that horse of a different color I have often been accused of being.

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