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No, I am not. I'm very up to date on the speed with which information is spread today. Which is a tad different than the speed with which information was spread in the past. Additionally, there is nothing regarding the meat packing industry history that suggests they were out to kill all of their customers.
"Out to kill"...? of course not
But they didn't give a diddley damned flip if someone died as a result of an entire bad line of product.
Roosevelt toured the plants ; he was a can do kinda guy and a guy who wanted to see stuff first hand and not make decisions based on hearsay.
You should not throw out EVERYTHING your forebears did just because you think a younger generation knows more. Listen, learn and read about the past to help you build a brighter future.
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"Out to kill"...? of course not
But they didn't give a diddley damned flip if someone died as a result of an entire bad line of product.
Roosevelt toured the plants ; he was a can do kinda guy and a guy who wanted to see stuff first hand and not make decisions based on hearsay.
You should not throw out EVERYTHING your forebears did just because you think a younger generation knows more. Listen, learn and read about the past to help you build a brighter future.
Already have read about the past. Hence why I wish to change what's going on now. It's why I value individual freedom and choice, and wish to limit the government greatly.

I have seen some of the things that happen in meat packing plants. You know what? It doesn't make me reach for more government regulation. What it does do is help me make a personal choice to not buy meat from large distributors. And personal choice is what it's all about. NOT bigger and bigger government. The FDA is why I can't get raw milk. The FDA is why I can't get my migraine meds. The FDA is why drugs are so ****ing expensive in this country.

**** the FDA and **** heavy govt regulation that does not serve anyone's best interest except those who wish to let the government control all of their and everyone elses choices.
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Gardasil (sp?) - my intention is to give my son the vaccine when he's older because men can carry this virus to the women they sleep with. But gov't making it a law? No thanks! Especially with a newer vaccine that isn't shaken out yet. I can see contagious disease vaccines being law for public schools, but not others. And the issue with Gov Perry was that he circumvented the legislature. No matter how good the intention, the gov't needs to follow its own laws. Isn't it suppose to be my body, my choice?
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Already have read about the past. Hence why I wish to change what's going on now. It's why I value individual freedom and choice, and wish to limit the government greatly.

I have seen some of the things that happen in meat packing plants. You know what? It doesn't make me reach for more government regulation. What it does do is help me make a personal choice to not buy meat from large distributors. And personal choice is what it's all about. NOT bigger and bigger government. The FDA is why I can't get raw milk. The FDA is why I can't get my migraine meds. The FDA is why drugs are so ****ing expensive in this country.

**** the FDA and **** heavy govt regulation that does not serve anyone's best interest except those who wish to let the government control all of their and everyone elses choices.
Good for you. Not everyone in this country has access to meat that is not from a large company. And who's to say a small company doesn't muck up and not pay attention to safety and cleanliness?
Raw milk will give you a fever if not handled properly. I've drank raw milk and I love it. It came straight from the cow outside my window to my landlord to me. I trusted that he knew what he was doing. That was 40 years ago. He's dead. I don't trust any of the newcomers so much any more. There are a few here in Idaho who learned the dairy business from their elders.
What I can't understand is why after so many great people , scientists, politicians, gave us a country that is as free of disease and as safe an environment as any on earth, why you would want to change that?
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Gardasil (sp?) - my intention is to give my son the vaccine when he's older because men can carry this virus to the women they sleep with. But gov't making it a law? No thanks! Especially with a newer vaccine that isn't shaken out yet. I can see contagious disease vaccines being law for public schools, but not others. And the issue with Gov Perry was that he circumvented the legislature. No matter how good the intention, the gov't needs to follow its own laws. Isn't it suppose to be my body, my choice?
First someone (may not have been you ?) was saying vaccines take too long, now I hear they come out too fast.
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Good for you. Not everyone in this country has access to meat that is not from a large company.
Actually, yes most do.

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And who's to say a small company doesn't muck up and not pay attention to safety and cleanliness?
I'm sure they can. But I can also go help slaughter if I wish. I can watch it if I wish.

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Raw milk will give you a fever if not handled properly. I've drank raw milk and I love it. It came straight from the cow outside my window to my landlord to me. I trusted that he knew what he was doing. That was 40 years ago. He's dead. I don't trust any of the newcomers so much any more. There are a few here in Idaho who learned the dairy business from their elders.
And that should be your CHOICE. It's nice to have choices. I would much rather have raw milk because it is healthier in many ways, but I don't get that choice without great expense. I'm forced to drink crap if I wish to have milk, or pay out the ****ing ass in order to circumvent the ridiculous laws.

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What I can't understand is why after so many great people , scientists, politicians, gave us a country that is as free of disease and as safe an environment as any on earth, why you would want to change that?
Nobody gave us anything. And yes, I wish to change things to allow personal choice and freedom.

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First someone (may not have been you ?) was saying vaccines take too long, now I hear they come out too fast.
I said drug approvals can take 10 years or more, which is way too long. What she's talking about is that the government is FORCING people to take this vaccine when it's only just come out. It's the FORCING that's the issue, not the availability of the vaccine. (which is the second time I've pointed this out)


And there should be no approval process at all. At least not run by the government. I have no issues with private companies that wish to put their stamp of approval on drugs. I simply have issues with not being allowed to consume things because the ****ing government says I can't. I cannot comprehend why anyone would be supportive of allowing the government to tell them what they can and can't put into their own bodies. Makes no ****ing sense to me.
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Some people's major objection to immunizing teenagers against HPV stems from the forced immunization, not the immunization itself. They simply think it should be up to the parents to decide.

I understand that. I was not addressing a parent's right or lack thereof to choose whether or not to vaccinate a child, only the idiotic reasoning behind many of the campaigns against the vaccine.
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Another breakthrough in cancer research...

Scientists have breakthrough on cancer cells
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 - Washington : US researchers said yesterday they have discovered how to keep tumor cells alive in a lab, generating buzz in the scientific community about a potential breakthrough that could transform cancer treatment.
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Until now, scientists have been unable to make cancer cells thrive for very long, or in a condition that resembles the way they act in the body. Doctors diagnose and recommend treatment largely based on biopsied tissue that is frozen or set in wax. The advance has sparked new hope that someday doctors may be able to test a host of cancer--killing drugs on a person’s own tumor cells in the lab, before returning to the patient with a therapy that is a proven to be a good match. “This would really be the ultimate in personalized medicine,” said lead author Richard Schlegel, chairman of the department of pathology at Georgetown University’s Lombardi Comprehensive Cancer Center. “The therapies would be exactly from their tissues. We would get normal tissue and tumor tissue from a particular patient and specifically match up their therapies,” he said. “We are really excited about the possibilities of testing we can do with this.”

The method, described in the online edition of the American Journal of Pathology, borrows from a simple method used in stem cell research, experts said. Lung, breast, prostate and colon cancers were kept alive for up to two years using the technique, which combines fibroblast feeder cells to keep cells alive and a Rho kinase inhibitor that allows them to reproduce. When treated with the duo, both cancer and normal cells reverted to a “stem-like state,” Schlegel said, allowing researchers to compare the living cells directly for the first time.

If other scientists can replicate the technique — and three labs in the US are already working on it — the advance could herald a long-awaited transformation in the way cancer cells are studied. “A tumor from one patient is different from a cancer from another patient, and really that is one important reason why so many clinical trials fail,” said Marc Symons, investigator at the Center for Oncology and Cell Biology at The Feinstein Institute for Medical Research in Manhasset, New York. “I think it is fair to say this revolutionizes the way we think of cancer treatment,” added Symons, who was not involved in the study. Cancer is the leading cause of death in the world, killing 7.6 million people in 2008, according to the latest data from the WHO.

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Actually, yes most do.


I'm sure they can. But I can also go help slaughter if I wish. I can watch it if I wish.
You can. I can. I'd bet money most people cannot.

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And that should be your CHOICE. It's nice to have choices. I would much rather have raw milk because it is healthier in many ways, but I don't get that choice without great expense. I'm forced to drink crap if I wish to have milk, or pay out the ****ing ass in order to circumvent the ridiculous laws.
You have the choice to buy and raise your own if you have enoug property to raise and slaughter meat.
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Nobody gave us anything. And yes, I wish to change things to allow personal choice and freedom.
So another youngun who thinks the world owes him/her instead of the other way around...what else is new....

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I said drug approvals can take 10 years or more, which is way too long. What she's talking about is that the government is FORCING people to take this vaccine when it's only just come out. It's the FORCING that's the issue, not the availability of the vaccine. (which is the second time I've pointed this out)
well go get miss do-it-yourself a degree in pharmacology and maybe you can be a miracle worker. The rest of us normal people do things in a process.
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And there should be no approval process at all. At least not run by the government. I have no issues with private companies that wish to put their stamp of approval on drugs. I simply have issues with not being allowed to consume things because the ****ing government says I can't. I cannot comprehend why anyone would be supportive of allowing the government to tell them what they can and can't put into their own bodies. Makes no ****ing sense to me.
do more research and reading keeping an open mind.
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I'd love to believe it as well..
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I'd love to believe it as well..
The fact that I haven't heard anything else about it doesn't bode well.
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