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Health, Wellness, Sex and Body Discuss Diet Plan With Hormone Has Fans and Skeptics at the General Discussion; http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/ny...WT.mc_ev=click Every morning, Kay Brown engages in a ritual similar to a heroin addict’s, or a diabetic’s: she sticks herself ...

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Every morning, Kay Brown engages in a ritual similar to a heroin addict’s, or a diabetic’s: she sticks herself with a syringe. Only hers contains hCG, a pregnancy hormone.
Ms. Brown, 35, is not taking hCG to help her bear a child. She believes that by combining the hormone injections with a 500-calorie-a-day diet, she will achieve a kind of weight-loss nirvana: losing fat in all the right places without feeling tired or hungry. “I had a friend who did it before her wedding,” Ms. Brown said. “She looks great.”

Women like Ms. Brown are streaming into doctors’ offices and weight-loss clinics all over the country, paying upward of $1,000 a month for a consultation, a supply of the hormone and the syringes needed to deliver it. More than 50 years after a doctor at a Roman clinic began promoting hCG as a dieting aid, it is as popular as ever, even though there is scant evidence that it makes any difference.

The regimen combines daily injections with a near-starvation diet, and patients, mostly women, are often enticed by promises that they can lose about a pound a day without feeling hungry. Perhaps even more seductively, they are frequently told that the hCG will prompt their bodies to carry away and metabolize fat that has been stored where they least want it — in their upper arms, bellies and thighs.

In response to inquiries stirred up by the diet’s popularity, the Food and Drug Administration warned in January that “homeopathic” forms of hCG, like lozenges and sprays, sold over the Internet and in some health food stores, are fraudulent and illegal if they claim weight-loss powers.

The injectable, prescription form of hCG, human chorionic gonadotropin, is approved as a treatment for infertility and other uses, and it is legal for doctors to prescribe it “off-label” for weight loss.

But the F.D.A. has also reiterated a warning, first issued in the mid-1970s, that is required on hCG packaging: It has not been shown to increase weight loss, to cause a more “attractive” distribution of fat or to “decrease hunger and discomfort” from low-calorie diets.

The F.D.A. recently received a report of a patient on the hCG diet who had a pulmonary embolism, said Christopher Kelly, a spokesman for the agency. He said the hormone carried risks of blood clots, depression, headaches and breast tenderness or enlargement.

Dr. Pieter Cohen, an assistant professor at Harvard medical school who researches weight-loss supplements, said that aside from the issue of side effects, the use of hCG as a diet tool was “manipulating people to give them the sense that they’re receiving something that’s powerful and potent and effective, and in fact they’re receiving something that’s nothing better than a placebo.”

But unlike other popular diet supplements, hCG, which is derived from the urine of pregnant women, has acquired an aura of respectability because the injections are available only by prescription.

Ms. Brown’s physician, Lionel Bissoon, a well-known society doctor with an office off Central Park West, charges $1,150 for his hCG program, which covers an examination, injection training, a month’s supply of the hormone and syringes, and blood work to monitor for possible trouble.

“From an anecdotal point of view,” Dr. Bissoon said, “physicians all around the country have seen people losing a tremendous amount of weight with this stuff, and you cannot afford to ignore that.”

Another New York doctor, Scott M. Blyer, offers the hCG diet as an adjunct to his cosmetic surgery practice, working with Jacqueline Fulop-Goodling, an orthodontist, out of her office in Midtown. Dr. Fulop-Goodling does not prescribe hCG, but she counsels patients. They charge $800 for a 40-day course of therapy, half-price for repeat rounds; they also require an EKG to make sure the patient has no heart trouble.

One of Dr. Blyer’s patients, a 30-year-old business consultant named May, who asked that her last name not be used because she was embarrassed to be considering the diet, described herself as an “emotional eater.” She is 5-foot-3 and 130 pounds, but said she hoped to shed 20 pounds in time to be a bridesmaid at an April wedding. “So I have just six weeks,” she said.

Dr. Blyer looked uneasy. “Your legs are thin, your face is thin,” he told her. “You’re a very attractive woman.” But he reassured her that she would lose weight where she wanted to, in her stomach. The hCG, Dr. Blyer said, “tricks your body into a state of pregnancy; it burns off fat so the fetus can get enough calories, but it protects muscle.”

May eventually decided that she did not need to lose much weight and did not go through with the diet.
I think the starvation has more to do with the weight loss then the injections.

And when I think weight loss, I think pregnancy!
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I think people will just keep on finding new and novel ways to screw up their bodies....
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There's not doubt that a 500 calorie/day diet will cause rapid weight loss, regardless of hormonal injections. The theory behind the hormone injections is that the female body "mobilizes" fat stores for use by the baby. Maybe it does, but when I was pregnant, that fat was mobilized to my butt and my breasts, and was likely related to my increased appetite. To me, this diet is more likely a way for some diet clinic to make a boatload of bucks.
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There's not doubt that a 500 calorie/day diet will cause rapid weight loss, regardless of hormonal injections. The theory behind the hormone injections is that the female body "mobilizes" fat stores for use by the baby. Maybe it does, but when I was pregnant, that fat was mobilized to my butt and my breasts, and was likely related to my increased appetite. To me, this diet is more likely a way for some diet clinic to make a boatload of bucks.
Exactly. Especially when you consider that eating 500 calories a day will really mess up your metabolism and you'll have to stay on the diet forever.
The weight loss industry runs the best scam. If you lose weight, they lose money. If every person was at their goal weight, the industry would no longer exist. It's not in their self-interest to help people.
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There is no magic pill. Or injection.

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Exactly. Especially when you consider that eating 500 calories a day will really mess up your metabolism and you'll have to stay on the diet forever.
The weight loss industry runs the best scam. If you lose weight, they lose money. If every person was at their goal weight, the industry would no longer exist. It's not in their self-interest to help people.
Even more indicative, to me, is that people don't seem to think it's in their own self-interest to help themselves. Weight control really isn't any great mystery. It's a numbers game. More caloric intake than output = weight gain. Less coloric intake than output = weight loss. We could get into a discussion about healthy weight loss vs unhealthy, but it has always boiled down to the same equation where weight loss is concerned.
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Even more indicative, to me, is that people don't seem to think it's in their own self-interest to help themselves. Weight control really isn't any great mystery. It's a numbers game. More caloric intake than output = weight gain. Less coloric intake than output = weight loss. We could get into a discussion about healthy weight loss vs unhealthy, but it has always boiled down to the same equation where weight loss is concerned.
Yes, it boils down to that, however, figuring out how many calories you're burning is the hard part. It's all guesswork.
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Yes, it boils down to that, however, figuring out how many calories you're burning is the hard part. It's all guesswork.
I tend to just go with the generally accepted basal metabolic rate, as determined by age, height, and weight. There are always variations, as some people tend to be "naturally" tall and lean or short and heavy, but there are "norms" among the general population. As an example, at my age, height, and weight, I probably need around 1800 calories daily to maintain my current weight. I don't obsess about it (although I was weight-obsessive when I was young), but if I start putting on weight, as evidenced by how tight my jeans are getting , I start counting calories and stay under 1500 per day until I take the weight back off.
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I tend to just go with the generally accepted basal metabolic rate, as determined by age, height, and weight. There are always variations, as some people tend to be "naturally" tall and lean or short and heavy, but there are "norms" among the general population. As an example, at my age, height, and weight, I probably need around 1800 calories daily to maintain my current weight. I don't obsess about it (although I was weight-obsessive when I was young), but if I start putting on weight, as evidenced by how tight my jeans are getting , I start counting calories and stay under 1500 per day until I take the weight back off.
Yeah, but that's just it. It's guesswork. If I eat 1500 calories a day, I gain weight. Even if I'm walking a few miles every day.

Apparently, in order to lose weight, I have to stay under 1200 calories and workout a couple of hours a day.

The "norms" are meaningless to me. And I'm not unique in that regard. So yes, while burning more calories than you put in is a sure fire way to lose weight, figuring out how much you're burning is all guesswork. It's not always so simple.

It does boil down to 'eating less and moving more' hehe But how much less and how much more is what's hard to figure out.
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