LA sheriff clashes with county lawyer over closing gun shops - Page 3

jamesrage · #21 (**permalink**) 03-28-2020, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

Sounds a lot like a call to arms to free us/keep us free from the British. That matter being settled you're on track to end the entire amendment. Better be careful.

The bill of rights didn't come with an expiration date and the need to defend against invasions and tyrannical governments will never go away.

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hmm...too bad we don't have a system that helps us detect the mentally ill in society much until it is too late. You might wanna get working on that letter to your congressman on that subject.

A dangerous crazy person getting their hands on a firearm is an issue to you.Not me.

saltwn · #22 (**permalink**) 03-28-2020, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesrage

The bill of rights didn't come with an expiration date and the need to defend against invasions and tyrannical governments will never go away.

A dangerous crazy person getting their hands on a firearm is an issue to you.Not me.

it is if he grabs a gun and kills someone you love or cripples you.

saltwn · #23 (**permalink**) 03-28-2020, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Manitou

Not making light of your story here, but look at it like this. If somebody in your vicinity is drunk on his ass and he's brandishing any weapon (never mind a firearm), the thinking thing to do is to disarm the ass hole. That does not mean you keep him disarmed, and unable to acquire another weapon when he is sober. That is what candy asses who are afraid of an armed society want to do with people here. I have a feeling this is falling on deaf ears, because you strike me as being 100 percent anti second amendment. If I were in your shoes, I would not bother trying to "enlighten" pro-gun people to the Kumbaya ways of the timid and unarmed.

with any kind of gun that he wants with as many clips as he wants he has already wounded people time, you disarm him.
should he be killed?
no. he is sick and in need of proper treatment.
if he is treated and gains back his high powered rapid-fire gun filled with rounds, he does it again this time killing someone or several.
if a mentally ill or mentally challenged person isn't safe to drive he is not allowed to drive.

Manitou · #24 (**permalink**) 03-28-2020, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

it is if he grabs a gun and kills someone you love or cripples you.

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Originally Posted by saltwn

with any kind of gun that he wants with as many clips as he wants he has already wounded people time, you disarm him.
should he be killed?
no. he is sick and in need of proper treatment.
if he is treated and gains back his high powered rapid-fire gun filled with rounds, he does it again this time killing someone or several.
if a mentally ill or mentally challenged person isn't safe to drive he is not allowed to drive.

If he grabs a gun blah blah blah. What about if he grabs a kitchen knife?

If some armed psycho gets confronted by me, I don't care if he is mentally ill or mentally "challenged". He is dead where he stands.

You are not going to change my mind. Go pick on some fence sitting "lifetime member of some gun club, but..." baloney.

loboloco · #25 (**permalink**) 03-28-2020, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

with any kind of gun that he wants with as many clips as he wants he has already wounded people time, you disarm him.
should he be killed?
no. he is sick and in need of proper treatment.
if he is treated and gains back his high powered rapid-fire gun filled with rounds, he does it again this time killing someone or several.
if a mentally ill or mentally challenged person isn't safe to drive he is not allowed to drive.

An animal with rabies is sick, but we still kill him.
A person who presents a clear and present dangers to others should be killed.

Jeerleader · #26 (**permalink**) 03-28-2020, 10:18 PM

On topic news coming out tonight . . .

Under the Trump Administration's guidance, the Department of Homeland Security has declared firearms manufacturers and retailers “essential businesses,” possibly driving a spike through the heart of various state and local “emergency powers” declarations that had classified gun stores to be “non-essential” during the current Coronavirus panic, and had ordered them closed.

The reference to gun shops is found in a document released Saturday titled “Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce,” in the section dealing with “Law Enforcement, Public Safety, and Other First Responders.”

The document released by DHS simply says that “Workers supporting the operation of firearm or ammunition product manufacturers, retailers, importers, distributors, and shooting ranges” are considered essential.

https://www.ammoland.com/2020/03/dhs...ial-businesses

So will this federal mandate be recognized / obeyed / observed by rabidly anti-rights states like Commifornia, or will they choose to fight the feds as well as citizen groups in court?

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Manitou · #27 (**permalink**) 03-28-2020, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeerleader

The document released by DHS simply says that “Workers supporting the operation of firearm or ammunition product manufacturers, retailers, importers, distributors, and shooting ranges” are considered essential.

https://www.ammoland.com/2020/03/dhs...ial-businesses[/INDENT][/INDENT]
So will this federal mandate be recognized / obeyed / observed by rabidly anti-rights states like Commifornia, or will they choose to fight the feds as well as citizen groups in court?

.

Since some state and local governments think they can tell the federal government to f**k off regarding marijuana and illegal aliens, I would say legalities are out the window, and anti-gun imbeciles may try their gun control at their own peril, and citizens may go by federal declaration.

I suspect the weenies will buzz off.

jamesrage · #28 (**permalink**) 03-29-2020, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

it is if he grabs a gun and kills someone you love or cripples you.

Do you think guns are the only weapons a crazy person can use to murder or hurt someone? That crazy person who is dangerous can do the same thing with a knife, baseball bat, car or anything else he or she can use as a weapon.

jamesrage · #29 (**permalink**) 03-29-2020, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeerleader

On topic news coming out tonight . . .

Under the Trump Administration's guidance, the Department of Homeland Security has declared firearms manufacturers and retailers “essential businesses,” possibly driving a spike through the heart of various state and local “emergency powers” declarations that had classified gun stores to be “non-essential” during the current Coronavirus panic, and had ordered them closed.

The reference to gun shops is found in a document released Saturday titled “Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce,” in the section dealing with “Law Enforcement, Public Safety, and Other First Responders.”

The document released by DHS simply says that “Workers supporting the operation of firearm or ammunition product manufacturers, retailers, importers, distributors, and shooting ranges” are considered essential.

https://www.ammoland.com/2020/03/dhs...ial-businesses

So will this federal mandate be recognized / obeyed / observed by rabidly anti-rights states like Commifornia, or will they choose to fight the feds as well as citizen groups in court?

.

This is good news. Hopefully Commiefornia and other anti-2nd amendment states get their asses handed to them if they don't comply.

Jeerleader · #30 (**permalink**) 03-29-2020, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesrage

This is good news. Hopefully Commiefornia and other anti-2nd amendment states get their asses handed to them if they don't comply.

The good news is, not every county is run by Marxist authoritarians. As long as this decision is in the discretion of the county sheriff, some CA citizens will be allowed to exercise their rights.

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