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Old 11-12-2019, 11:26 AM
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Default Supreme Court to allow Sandy Hook parents to sue gun maker Remington

Apparently, there is work yet to be done to get the court back in line with the Constitution. Allowing feelings to trump the rule of law is the first step on the road to a banana republic.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is letting a lawsuit proceed against the maker of the rifle used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

The justices rejected an appeal Tuesday from Remington Arms that argued a 2005 federal law shields firearms manufacturers from most lawsuits when their products are used in crimes.

The court's order allows a survivor and relatives of nine victims who died at the Newtown, Connecticut, school in 2012 to pursue their claims.


The lawsuit says the Madison, North Carolina-based company should never have sold a weapon as dangerous as the Bushmaster AR-15-style rifle that gunman Adam Lanza used to kill 20 first graders and six educators. It also alleges Remington targeted younger, at-risk males in marketing and product placement in violent video games.

The National Rifle Association was among those urging the court to jump into the case and end the lawsuit against Remington.
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Default Re: Supreme Court to allow Sandy Hook parents to sue gun maker Remington

So what's next? Are we going to sue Budweiser for Drunk Driver's? How about we sue McDonald's for obesity. We could sue Exxon for people speeding on the highway.

I would rather we sue the NEA for the stupidity taking over education in this country as they have abdicated their duties to teach critical thinking in our schools in favor of left wing ideology. We should then sue the MSM and the DNC (redundancy alert) for perpetuating the notion that everyone that has something bad happen to them is a victim of whomever can be loosely affiliated with the perceived crime and has the deepest pockets.

Look, I feel terrible for the victims in this instance. Children should not be shot and this lunatic should never have gotten his hands on the gun. However, their case is flimsy at best as from what I remember of this case, the guns were the property of Lanza's mother and were purchased by her. If she had survived, she would be guilty of not securing her weapons in a home occupied by someone with mental issues.

And news flash: ALL GUNS ARE WEAPONS OF WAR, just as the founders envisioned. Killing is truly their only function outside of target practice. It is the duty of American Patriots to arm themselves to protect the Republic from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

Also, we live in a FREE and OPEN REPUBLIC. That means that the state is not there to police your every move. Unfortunately, this will allow for the few nut jobs in our society to do bad things. While this is horrible, it is far better than living in a closed society where your every move is subject to government approval.
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Gun possession, Gun control, 2nd amendment purpose, all argument made in the media with prejudiced hyperbole. Nothing will ever be decided there. Frankly, I do not find this lawsuit disturbing. Whilst it is risky, perhaps it is about time to cut the crap and have a final judgement made by the courts as to whom we hold responsible when the heinous crimes of mass murder happen.
The perp?
The victims?
The merchant?
The manufacturer?
The Government?

All are parties to the gruesomeness. And some, to the political arguments.

Yes, it is likely Remington might lose in the lower courts. But until it reaches the SCOTUS, not one judgement matters.
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Default Re: Supreme Court to allow Sandy Hook parents to sue gun maker Remington

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So what's next?

Are we going to sue Budweiser for Drunk Driver's?
How about we sue McDonald's for obesity.
We could sue Exxon for people speeding on the highway.
It's insane not to blame the perp in any of these school shootings.....

I hope the SH parents lose large in court, the entire concept is bogus imo….
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The court that allowed the lawsuit to go through consists of nothing but baboons who like to dig in their butts for more truth.
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Gun possession, Gun control, 2nd amendment purpose, all argument made in the media with prejudiced hyperbole. Nothing will ever be decided there. Frankly, I do not find this lawsuit disturbing. Whilst it is risky, perhaps it is about time to cut the crap and have a final judgement made by the courts as to whom we hold responsible when the heinous crimes of mass murder happen.
The perp?
The victims?
The merchant?
The manufacturer?
The Government?

All are parties to the gruesomeness. And some, to the political arguments.

Yes, it is likely Remington might lose in the lower courts. But until it reaches the SCOTUS, not one judgement matters.
If the lower court rules against Remington wouldn't this open up lawsuits against other gun manufacturers and dealers and possible cause them to temporarily stop selling and making certain semiautomatic firearms?
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If the lower court rules against Remington wouldn't this open up lawsuits against other gun manufacturers and dealers and possible cause them to temporarily stop selling and making certain semiautomatic firearms?
Probably. But keep in mind, gum manufacture's, along with the NRA, are well funded. And backed by a majority of Americans who may or may not themselves be gun owners. The anti gun crowd has George Soros types and the Democratic Socialist party funding their chip away war on the Constitution.

So if more Gun manufactures are sued it depletes the funding of the latter whilst encouraging organized efforts and monetary support of the former.

We The People obviously cannot win this battle in the ballot box. Like gay marriage and abortion, the will of the people has been ignored by the legislators and politically active State and lower Federal Courts. Hopefully the SCOTUS will rule in favor of the Bill of Rights. Otherwise there will be blood.

Unlikely but,,,; Yes, it can come to that.

I would hope not. But, what we can hope for is that the matter of ultimate responsibility will be settled. At least for a while.

Remember, this is ultimately about money. The altruism of the legal profession is now well known. Lawyers are motivated by money, not justice or truth. Otherwise this subject would never enter a courtroom.
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Remember, this is ultimately about money. The altruism of the legal profession is now well known. Lawyers are motivated by money, not justice or truth. Otherwise this subject would never enter a courtroom.
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So what's next? Are we going to sue Budweiser for Drunk Driver's? How about we sue McDonald's for obesity. We could sue Exxon for people speeding on the highway.

I would rather we sue the NEA for the stupidity taking over education in this country as they have abdicated their duties to teach critical thinking in our schools in favor of left wing ideology. We should then sue the MSM and the DNC (redundancy alert) for perpetuating the notion that everyone that has something bad happen to them is a victim of whomever can be loosely affiliated with the perceived crime and has the deepest pockets.

Look, I feel terrible for the victims in this instance. Children should not be shot and this lunatic should never have gotten his hands on the gun. However, their case is flimsy at best as from what I remember of this case, the guns were the property of Lanza's mother and were purchased by her. If she had survived, she would be guilty of not securing her weapons in a home occupied by someone with mental issues.

And news flash: ALL GUNS ARE WEAPONS OF WAR, just as the founders envisioned. Killing is truly their only function outside of target practice. It is the duty of American Patriots to arm themselves to protect the Republic from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

Also, we live in a FREE and OPEN REPUBLIC. That means that the state is not there to police your every move. Unfortunately, this will allow for the few nut jobs in our society to do bad things. While this is horrible, it is far better than living in a closed society where your every move is subject to government approval.
How about suing the makers of violent video games... after all, they opened that door by claiming: It also alleges Remington targeted younger, at-risk males in marketing and product placement in violent video games. Yes, let's blame the tool, but not the incitement to commit violence....
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How about suing the makers of violent video games... after all, they opened that door by claiming: It also alleges Remington targeted younger, at-risk males in marketing and product placement in violent video games. Yes, let's blame the tool, but not the incitement to commit violence....
WHAT!!!!?
I liked everything until you agreed to blame the tool. My shop has dozens of lethal tools. Not a one is to blame were I to use them for intentional harm.
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