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If only you people would read the "well regulated militia part" you might sound a bit more educated.
And who makes up a militia?

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a military force that is raised from the civilian population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
Well regulated: Trains on a regular basis.

And now you are 'a bit more educated'.
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If only you people would read the "well regulated militia part" you might sound a bit more educated.
You should have stayed awake during 3rd grade English.

The "shall not be infringed" stands on its own.

Well regulated militia is a prefatory phrase.
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Well regulated: Trains on a regular basis.

And now you are 'a bit more educated'.
Well regulated simply means works well.

Willard and Terry clocks were known for keeping accurate time, and were known as regulators. We still use the term.
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From Mirriam.

1a: to govern or direct according to rule
b(1): to bring under the control of law or constituted authority
(2):to make regulations for or concerning
regulate the industries of a country
2: to bring order, method, or uniformity to
regulate one's habits
3: to fix or adjust the time, amount, degree, or rate of
regulate the pressure of a tire[/B]

2 and 3 were in use in 1800.
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The "education" that results in believing that "well regulated" conditions / qualifies / modifies the pre-existing, fundamental, fully retained right to arms can only be described as leftist indoctrination.
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If only you people would read the "well regulated militia part" you might sound a bit more educated.
If the president decides to declare himself dictator for life and he moblizes all military branches, plus the National Guard (state militia)
to keep himself in power, can anybody tell me how, in the name of Schiff's butthole, the "well-regulated" militia will fight to regain freedom from the dictator while their commander-in-chief is the dictator?
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If the president decides to declare himself dictator for life and he moblizes all military branches, plus the National Guard (state militia)
to keep himself in power, can anybody tell me how, in the name of Schiff's butthole, the "well-regulated" militia will fight to regain freedom from the dictator while their commander-in-chief is the dictator?


I can.

The military reports to the President but gains it's autonomy via the oath to the Constitution. The military defends the Constitution, not the President.

That should answer your query.

The founders envisioned the "militia" as being citizen armed the same as the professional soldier at a time when our nation had no standing army. That interpretation does not change because we now maintain a standing military. But the question of private citizen rights to bear arms is not based on any of this reasoning. It stands alone as sacrosanct.
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For the record, the subject of the OP has NOTHING to do with aright to bear arms but who can be held responsible for the misuse of the product produced by a manufacturer, in this case a gun manufacturer.


Who has the right to bear was settle succinctly by the SCOTUS in 2008

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District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, unconnected with service in a militia, for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that the District of Columbia's handgun ban and requirement that lawfully owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee.[1] It also stated that the right to bear arms is not unlimited and that guns and gun ownership would continue to be regulated. It was the first Supreme Court case to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense or if the right was intended for state militias.[2]

Because of the District of Columbia's status as a federal enclave (it is not in any state), the decision did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment's protections are incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment against the states,[3] which was addressed two years later by McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010) in which it was found that they are.

On June 26, 2008, the Supreme Court affirmed by a vote of 5 to 4 the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in Heller v. District of Columbia.[4][5] The Supreme Court struck down provisions of the Firearms Control Regulations Act of 1975 as unconstitutional, determined that handguns are "arms" for the purposes of the Second Amendment, found that the Regulations Act was an unconstitutional ban, and struck down the portion of the Regulations Act that requires all firearms including rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock". Prior to this decision the Firearms Control Regulation Act of 1975 also restricted residents from owning handguns except for those registered prior to 1975.
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I can.

The military reports to the President but gains it's autonomy via the oath to the Constitution. The military defends the Constitution, not the President.

That should answer your query.

The founders envisioned the "militia" as being citizen armed the same as the professional soldier at a time when our nation had no standing army. That interpretation does not change because we now maintain a standing military. But the question of private citizen rights to bear arms is not based on any of this reasoning. It stands alone as sacrosanct.

The right of the PEOPLE, not the right of the "well-regulated militia", yes.

I understand that: the stand alone, plus the fact that the main Armed Forces members swore an Oath to defend the Constitution. How many momma's boys and daddy's little princesses from all branches does anybody envision trashing their Oath and siding with their new-found dictator?

The least we can do with all the anti-gun weenies is tell them to go choke a chicken.
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Since a simple denial of Ceriorari by SCOTUS in a gun case gives license for using all kinds of inflammatory language, I'm writing fresh copy for this news item with an 'anti-gunners suck' slant . . .


In a devastating blow to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, the US Supreme Court rejected a case initiated and sponsored by the virulent anti-gun group. The frivolous lawsuit was brought on behalf of the daughter of a victim of a 2012 shooting at a suburban Milwaukee spa. The case has been repeatedly thrown out by every court that heard it. Brady, blindly following their gun hating agenda, cruelly kept stringing the poor woman along, perpetuating her pain for seven long years.

Lawyers paid for by Brady argued that Armslist, a firearms website that listed the ad that that a shooter answered, facilitates illegal firearm sales because it allows sellers and buyers to meet privately and it provides no guidance on laws governing firearm sales.

Armslist attorneys countered that the federal Communications Decency Act renders website operators immune from liability stemming from their sites’ design and functions.

The Supreme Court apparently agrees with Armslist, SCOTUS ruled on Monday that they will not hear the appeal of the last court decision that threw the case out.


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https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...r-spa-shooting
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